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06/27/2020 at 6:11 pm #54442
I think my strop stroke is very much like yours, Marc. My Forschner blade is 12″ long, so I have to break up the stropping procedure into three smaller segments. I start at the heal of the blade and work toward the tip. I made a test polish to double check myself. I think, therefore, that my left hand gets lazy, and the away movement isn’t quite up to par. I need more vigilance and concentration in that spot. This happens somewhere in the forward half of the blade, as the leather shavings collect forward of the clamp.
It’s a very subtle thing. The blade is so sharp that I can’t even feel it shaving the leather. It gives me new found respect for ballet dancers and competition swimmers who must master every muscle to craft refined movement.
Thanks for the tips, Keith.
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06/27/2020 at 12:52 pm #54440To help avoid gouging/slashing strops, start your up and off motion, first, before making contact between the strop leather with the knife steel. Don’t stop the strop motion when in contact with the knife. Follow through. With your “edge trailing” stroke motion, up, and off the edge, lift the strop off and away from contact with the knife, once your strop stroke is above the knife edge. Don’t ever employ upper stone stops when stropping. The sudden abrupt stoppage in the stropping motion is almost guaranteed to slash your strop leather. Lastly, even slashed or gouged strop leather will continue to work well unless it is really terribly damaged. I too slashed my strop leather when I first got started. After learning and putting into practice good stropping technique I seldom cut the leather any longer. Now I generally only need to replace the leather when it’s old and blackened, saturated with steel, and won’t clean up any longer.
Thanks for the tip, Marc. It’s my left hand that will give me problems with cut leather. My cutting problems come and go. I think I need to slow down and concentrate on making a better stroke like yours. I think it’s my pull away at the end of the stroke that needs improving.
Keth
06/26/2020 at 2:34 pm #54431It’s an interesting point to note, that with each increase in grit, the distance between the rod center and the face of the stone is slightly reduced. At least after being fully broken in. With each step, the average diameter of the diamond particles is smaller, hence the distance is less. The result is that the angle is reduced accordingly, assuming that you don’t change the micro-adjust settings. The total change is quite small, but it means that with each progression step, the stone will tend to cut closer to the apex. Clay called it a “happy accident,” and it really does work to our advantage. Check your stones with a micrometer or a good digital caliper and you’ll see the differences. If memory serves me, (as I age, it’s less reliable) each 0.010″ works out to be about 0.1 degrees over the 6″ from the knife edge to the ball joint. While you’re at it, check the difference from one end of the stone to the other. Occasionally, we see cases where a stone is not fully seated into its pocket. This causes angle variation on the side with the mal-positioned stone. The platen thickness and tape thickness are pretty fixed, so the differences in the face-to-face dimensions would be attributed to the height of the diamond substrates.
I checked all my stones for parallel, which was very good. However, there is variability in the distance from stone face to stone face among the stones. So, when I switch grits, I must check/reset the angle before cutting. This factors out the gradual o.10 degree angle change provided by grit progression. I could adjust my reset angle that 0.10 degree so I can enjoy that happy accident, assuming my angle finder is accurate enough. I didn’t realize that natural angle change happened. That’s really cool. Thanks for that tip.
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06/25/2020 at 10:48 pm #54421ME: When I wrapped them in tape, they grew 0.05″ in diameter.
TOM: One quibble….the tape thickness probably is .005″ and not 50 thou.
Thanks, Tom. You are correct. I missed a decimal point.
03/14/2019 at 9:02 pm #49711meyer:
I love the chef idea. You’re right, we’d need a few different designs, based on one’s occupation. Another could be of an executioner’s axe. Or Lizzy Borden’s. (joke) A Halloween specific shirt can show a vampire sharpening his fangs with a WE.
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03/04/2019 at 11:55 pm #49624I dunno, guys. My two cents here probably isn’t worth two cents. A cheetah and a lion: which is the better cat? There is no better cat. Both are fine products of fine engineering. The observer may favor the lion’s power over the cheetah’s speed, and vice versa. So it is with knives, it seems to me. If we assume two knives are of the finest steels, then I think a Japanese knife is equally as good the German’s. Granted, they have different characteristics. Any knife edge is going to wear/chip/roll when used. All that pressure applied to the knife gets concentrated into that micron sized edge when chopping, cutting, etc. But the Wusthoff edge will roll, and the Japanese edge will chip despite the users best habits. WE has solved that problem, I think. It quickly restores any rolled/chipped edge. I simply drop back to 1000 grit, sometimes to 800, and have my edge back to lethal in less than 20 minutes. I pound a 12″ Forschener, a lower tiered quality blade, stamped steel, cheap as a newspaper on a maple cross grained board. It takes a marvelous edge and holds it just fine, all things considered. Because I have my WE, I no longer worry about my Forschner. I’m free to make feta basil marinara and flood it over tortellini. Or carve up a fine buffalo sirloin, dice up some mushrooms and asparagus, and flambe’ it all in cream sherry. Don’t worry about your knives, boys, get in here, and eat! mmmmm.
Oh, uh, I do prefer the “power” of the European steel over the “speed” of Japanese steel. I like having some balanced mass in my hand. I want my blade to be tough enough to tolerate bumps and bone during handling, which comes at the price of blade hardness. But this recalls my heritage in food service. It got into my kitchen DNA very early and never bleached out. I don’t know what to say about that Wusthoff bolster. 🙂 Keith
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02/25/2019 at 7:57 pm #49556I forgot to mention that my rods’ diameters measure 0.254″, the same as yours. So they must the new type. When I wrapped them in tape, they grew 0.05″ in diameter.
02/25/2019 at 7:54 pm #49555That’s very true, and I think about that. I wonder how accurate those angle finders are. So, when I set my stone/edge angle, I measure the angle two or three times. It’s a simple matter of rocking the instrument back and forth. If the angle readouts are the same, I begin to sharpen. Sometimes the readout bumps back and forth by 0.5degree. I’ll accept that and continue. It’s just a kitchen knife. 🙂 The fun for me is in the chase of precision.
02/25/2019 at 5:47 pm #49553Gadzooks! How could I forget this source of error? When switching grits of stones, the stone/edge angle can change, corrupting your sharpening effort. Therefore, I check my angles with each grit change. I noticed that moving from stone pair to stone pair makes the biggest angle change. That tells me there is variability in the stone dimensions. This is no big deal. In a perfect world, changing stone pairs will perfectly keep the stone/edge angle. But nothing is perfect.
I did once run my calipers along the stone blocks to see if the two stone surfaces were indeed parallel. I was pleased to learn they were. This might explain why the stone/edge angle changed little when flipping the stone from 100 grit to 200 grit, for example.
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02/25/2019 at 5:37 pm #49552Wow. Very good stuff, guys. Thanks for the heads up. I’ll have to reconsider the Wusthoff.
Keith
02/21/2019 at 12:35 am #49478I didn’t know those improvements occurred, Marc. WE’s new enlarged rod diameter is right in line with the rod enlargement I made. I admire WE’s desire to perfect their product. It’s a very clever thing to do, keeping the sharpener fiercely competitive. I can’t say that about every company. My ideas, perhaps not new, I hope, ought to help the “skinny rod people” keep abreast with the “fat rod people”. OMG; I hope I don’t start a civil war. 🙂
02/19/2019 at 11:22 pm #49433Thanks, Marc. Can you tell me what the substrate is under the leather? Is it aluminum?
02/19/2019 at 11:12 pm #49432My WE is a user, so I don’t know her exact age other than it had the 2017 L bracket. It was pretty much a Propack II kit. It was in new condition, so I made out like a fat rat. I added the micro adjustment fittings and later the glass platens.
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