Pat
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For me the Tormek is analogous to running my car through the car wash at the local gas station; while, the WE is handwashing with fine materials. IMO and YMMV.
They both have their place, but once you are skilled on the WE to make it do your bidding, you can make that edge sing and dance as the job dictates.
For instance, not sure about the Tormek, but if I want to put on a great working edge with bite, that is quick on the WE and takes up less room than the Tormek from my standpoint, then if I want to go to a mirror edge, I can do that too with little additional footprint and working space for the additional paddles (in fact, I do most of my sharpening while both our cars are parked in our garage so I have about 2.5 feet of width so the WE works well in tight spots I can assure you).
I recently saw Wicked Edge 2200/3000 Diamond Stones. They are priced at $120 per pair. What would stones of this fine grit do for a knife if my finest grit is currently 1500. (I have diamond lapping and leather strops already in my kit.) Thanks! Michael
For what its worth, I didn’t go with those. I have the 1500/2200 and then move to DLFs. No regrets. If you insist on getting the 2200/3000, then get the 1500 / blank and not the 1500/2200 to avoid duplication. You can then put 6 or 3 micron DLF on the 1500 and you are in business (not sure what micron the 3000 is, but the 6 micron DLF will have a more refined effect than the 3000 due to the glass vs metal substrate).
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I have found that the Gen 2 is often need for me to solve the uneven bevel and asymetrical grind / chisel grind problem; HOWEVER, I use the Gen 3 as often as possible and definitely when I want to use the Low Angle Adapter as its fit and finish works perfect with the Gen 3.
Since I purchased the Gen 2 years ago, buying a Gen 3 wasn’t a major $$$ issue for me and I definitely would not consider selling the Gen 2.
What I did after buying the Gen 3 is sell whatever parts and paddles I didn’t need which helped recoup 1/3 of the cost, give or take, of the Gen 3.
Great questions.
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By the photos, looks really good and sounds like you have it down! Congrats…you likely learned it much faster than I did (I’m stubborn).
Pat, it cuts fantastically. I currently just feel the burr has been raised at my lowest grits and continue on. I have though about getting a ISB microscope. Was just looking at them on Amazon moments ago in fact. My progression is as follows; 100/200, 400/600, 800/1000, 1500/2200, 3000/6M DLF, 5/3.5 leather, 1/0.5 leather, and finished w/ 0.25 kangaroo. Ran out of time to use the 0.10. I’m still waiting for the 14/10 to be delivered.
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Perhaps; however, there are ways to ask and there are ways not to ask. I would have asked differently. Keep in mind that the grit structure, substrate layout, suggested progressions are through a specific system design that doesn’t address every possible combination of other options. Saying someone doesn’t know what they are selling is a major charge and you need a lot of evidence, especially from someone like Clay whose reputation is impeccable for dealing with customers and taking feedback seriously, before leveling such a potential invective.
Guys, Clay is a professional running a successful business. He can handle a legitimate question.
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Perhaps I am missing something, but the statement below appears a bit overloaded with something…not sure what.
I guess I’m a bit of a simpleton….I purchased diamond stones that progress in reasonable grit, then asked Kyle about which DLFs to start with after 1500 grit and got an answer, then went on my way. No muss, no fuss. If I wanted to go further, I could get into nano cloth, diamond sprays and the what not, but honestly, I have no need to go further myself, and even know from reputable guys sharpening knives for a living are not going beyond 1 micron for mirror finishes.
Of course, it’s your choice to dive deep into all this, but honestly, be careful and not treat it like lives are on the line or something like that.
Seems we need to relax a bit here.
Clay, thank you for updating this thread. However, a nagging question persists. As a business owner, why would you invest in a product to sell without actually knowing what you are selling? If you can’t inform your customers of the micron size, why should we ignorantly buy it?
Excellent. So how did it cut? So how do you examine the edge to ensure it is apexed and no remnants of any burrs? Guys use various methods (e.g. jeweler’s loop, USB microscope, etc…). Did you stop with DLFs or did you strop as your last step?
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