Daniel Saucier

[Daniel Saucier]

Phillip, have you sharpened your Southard yet? If so, what settings, angle etc. did you use. Need to sharpen mine and looking for tips. Want to get this one right.

Thanks,
Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Quick update, bought a strop from Stropman.com after checking out some reviews, mostly influenced from Jdavis’ youtube video…..outstanding. Haven’t needed anymore than it yet while out and about. I bought the pacman model with white and green compounds. No mobile stones yet. Might get the fold out kind that has somewhat of a handle. Phillips previous comments make sense about not having much to grip onto with the double stuff or dmt credit card style.

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Thanks for all the ideas…..good stuff!

Philip, you always break it down pretty good, don’t you? :whistle:

Here’s what I’m looking for: the most versatility in a small package(portable), something I can have in my backpack all the time whether I’m close to home or not, without having to remember to load WE paddles back and forth. Will not be doing complete reprofilings. Something that can put an edge back on that requires more than stropping.

What I’m leaning towards so far are these two: the Spyderco Double Stuff or the DMT credit card stones 3 pack(I know, hand sharpening learning curve, I’m looking forward to it). Seems each can be taken with you easily, and quite capable with limitations I understand. Comments on these? Does anyone know if you can strop on the Double Stuff pouch? Which also leads into my next question:

Recommendations on strops? Again, something portable I can keep with most likely one of the above two without taking WE stuff with me. This will get more use than the stones as 95% of sharpening will be done at home on WE.

Thanks again,
Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Thanks Jed for the idea. I know this is a WE forum, but there is a lot of knowledge within that I’m looking to pull from. When I say portable, that’s exactly what I mean. I.E. Backpacking, hunting, fishing, vacationing around with the kids, places you are not going to lug around a WE with you.

Thanks,
Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

I sharpened a Wusthof Santoku at 13 degrees per side with no problems. The knife is a high carbon steel blade and is approx. 1.75″wide(tall). I initially mounted in the vice and tested the lowest angle I could achieve cleanly and found it could be 12 degrees per side. I did not like the way the tip would’ve come out so I went up to 13. Turned out beautiful. Sharper than heck. I did some research before hand with the manufacturer and found the factory grind is 11 degrees per side, which could not be duplicated with my set up (PPII). I am quite pleased with 13 per side.

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

I have used this method and learned it from the same you tuber “m0difiedz” with the same results he achieved. Here was the progression: diamonds through 1K, course and fine ceramics, then taped 2000 grit paper to the fine ceramics, then 2500 grit. Just as you noticed from the video, the pollish is almost instantly recognizable, but there are still trace scratches. Finished with 1 um and .5 um strops. I achieved the sharpest and most pollished results with this combo yet (my first hair whittling edge).

I kind of figure this is an inexpensive way of substituting for a set of Choseras to bridge the gap from the ceramics to the strops. Although the Choseras sound like they might eliminate the scratches a bit better if you progress with them. Just an extra expense for the waterstones.

I bought the 2000 grit at the local woodworking store and the 2500 grit I ordered online.

Hope that helps,
Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Does anyone know the “grit rating” on the micro fine ceramics?

Mark, looking at a set of choseras. Currently have the micro fine ceramics, and was thinking I would progress from them to a set of 2k/3k choseras. Now you throw the 5k/10k and say that works well. Looking at one set for now and want the most bang for my buck progression wise.

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Thanks Curtis, seen that one a couple times. I keep up with the videos from smokeeater908, jdavis, m0difiedz and a couple others. Learned alot just from watching! :ohmy:
Still lovin the spydie flipper so far.

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Curtis,

So anyway, in light of the above and my experience, if somebody is buying the stones as WEPS has them mounted, the 800/1000 would be the first purchase that I would make if I was starting over. A 1K/2K would be a great option if someone will build them for you.

Phil

Phil, I’ve been following this thread and have a fewquestion for you: Where do the Micro fine ceramics come into play or rank with Chosera progression? Ineresting thread you posted, the only ceramics listed were the 1200/1600.

My current progression is 800/1000 diamonds, Micro fine ceramics, 2000 and 2500 grit paper taped onto ceramics, then strops. Produces good pollish, but still see very fine scratches without a loupe.

If I wanted to eliminate the sand paper, where would the choseras most effectively fit in here?

Before or after ceramics?

Have people purchased a custom mix of Chosera grits already?

Thanks for any info,
Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Nice…. but what is it? 🙂

Sorry, good question:P . Spyderco Southard Flipper. Spydies first flipper knife. Cts-204P steel. Titanium frame lock. Need just a little more practice before I mount her up in the WE!

Thanks again for the pic info Curtis. Did it right from my phone.

[Daniel Saucier]

I think the case is a great idea. My vote would be for no wheels or telescoping handle. Just a standard carry case handle would be great. What would the price range be for either option?

Thanks,
Sauce

Thanks for the feedback Sauce. I’m not sure yet what we can get done on pricing – they’re not cheap but the quality is awesome. Do you have a sense of what you feel like a reasonable price is? The company we’re working with is trying to make it happen for us and they’re much more reasonable than Pelican, but the cases are still expensive.[/quote]

Price range aroung $100 maybe, probably wouldn’t go much higher. Large enough to hold the base with vise installed and all the extras we use with it(loupe, cube, marker, roll of tape,extra stones etc..) would be nice.

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

I think the case is a great idea. My vote would be for no wheels or telescoping handle. Just a standard carry case handle would be great. What would the price range be for either option?

Thanks,
Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

I’m in the same boat as you. My WEPS PP1 is still on backorder and it has yet to leave my mind. I watch videos and browse the forums daily. In fact, I’ve been nothing but a lurker since this post. I have a SOG Twitch 2, Twitch XL, and a Fallkniven PXL on the way. So excited to put a beautiful edge on those knives. Call it what you will, but I am totally obsessed with this thing and I don’t even have it yet.

Welcome to the forum. There is somewhat of a short learning curve with WE. I am still tweaking my technique after only about 15 sharpenings. I heeded the advice of quite a few on here who recommended to learn on your not so nice or inexpensive knives, then transition into better ones. Just food for thought. Enjoy your sharpener, it’s an awesome tool and passtime!

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

I tried using no lube when I first reassembled my Delica 4. Even after adjusting the tension on the pivot screw, it was apparent lubrication was needed. Action was much smoother. Cleaned and lubed a Kershaw next, action seems it can only be improved with a little lube for me so far!

Sauce

[Daniel Saucier]

Unless you are sharpening many many knives with uneven bevels, two stones should wear quite evenly. The angle cube is invaluable in my opinion. No matter whether you are using 1 or 2 stones, the angle can be verified. I use in between each progression of stones, and find I make minor adjustments about 25-50% of the time. No question your stone is hitting at the proper angle each stroke. Overboard maybe, just my .02 on that. Also, it’s nice to go from one side of the blade to the other without having to reposition the stone each time. Speeds sharpenings up a bit. I spend enough time on them already, although I do enjoy it.

Sauce

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