Spyderco Southard – What am I doing wrong?

[Phil Pasteur]

18 degrees does seem high. I have had the ball joint arms and riser mounted up for quite awhile and don’t have immediate access to my log, but am pretty sure that I sharpened many knives at less than that. 17 degrees was a pretty common number. I have a Southard, I will have to put it in the vise and see what the new setup gives me…
As Curtis points out, the higher you mount the knife the more acute an angle can be achieved.

I bought the Southard specifically so I could have an example of the CTS 204P. I have not yet sharpened it. I had it in mind to use 17 to 18 degrees on it when I do.

[Daniel Saucier]

I sharpened a Wusthof Santoku at 13 degrees per side with no problems. The knife is a high carbon steel blade and is approx. 1.75″wide(tall). I initially mounted in the vice and tested the lowest angle I could achieve cleanly and found it could be 12 degrees per side. I did not like the way the tip would’ve come out so I went up to 13. Turned out beautiful. Sharper than heck. I did some research before hand with the manufacturer and found the factory grind is 11 degrees per side, which could not be duplicated with my set up (PPII). I am quite pleased with 13 per side.

Sauce

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[Daniel Saucier]

Phillip, have you sharpened your Southard yet? If so, what settings, angle etc. did you use. Need to sharpen mine and looking for tips. Want to get this one right.

Thanks,
Sauce

[Phil Pasteur]

Sauce,
Nope. It is still in the box unused and unsharpened. A shame in one way … I like to use my knives. Good in another, it hasn’t depreciated in value as much.

[John Batinovich]

I don’t find that I can get significantly more acute angles with the new ball joint arms and vise riser.

Can anyone else comment?

I’ve found the same thing.

[John Batinovich]

14° is about the most acute I can go, and I do so on most of my commonly used blades, Paramilitary 2, Dragonfly, a Sebenza 25, Endura, Delica and a few Benchmades. I tried going to 13° on the PM 2’s because I like Spyderco’s version of S30V and I know it can handle that angle, but when I mount the blade the moveable-side stone always ends up rubbing on something, the mount itself or the screw tip.

But 14° on the PM 2 or Endura, etc, makes the knife a slicing machine, so I’m happy with being able to get that. I agree that a wider blade (from spine to edge) or one mounted higher in the clamps gives you the ability to sharpen to a more acute angle. The new arms are worth the upgrade if only because the angle can be so precisely set.

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