Gib Curry
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Vicariously excited for you, Nephew.
Been on the road with only my traveling kit. I’ve put out some sharp edges, some toothy edges, some functional everyday edges but no wicked edges…..for months.
So, I envy you being in your own space….created and to be wicked ,(so to say).
For Now,
Gib
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The thought keeps rolling around the brain so I’ll just post it…. I’ve been imagining what differences might be visible in different steels.
What would edge leading and edge trailing and stropping etc look like in a damascus blade? Or a CPM blade?
Would the steel “sluff” off differently? Would the foil edge or wire edge form and look different? And what would <span style=”text-decoration: underline;”>that</span> mean for sharpening techniques.
Have a good day, everyone.
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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It sounds like an April Fool’s Joke or some twisted intelligence test and I don’t know if I passed or failed!!
Somebody posts a 6 minute 27 second video of sharpening dust with beautiful music and I watched the whole thing — fascinated!!
I love this forum….. you all are so weird…..and I mean that in the best possible way.
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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Love the pics….
Did the Edge Leading feel sharper to your finger with both a push stroke and a draw stroke?
Would it make a difference if it were a Edge Leading stroke from tip to heel versus Edge Leading from heel to tip?
Is my old eyes or does the Edge Leading look like it leaves a more “uniform” tooth pattern with less chaotic looking edge? I did this to try to see things better… not that it helped…
Thanks all you guys for pushing the envelope….
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
Nice video, Cliff.
Seeing the layer like sheets of metal at magnification was not just visually stimulating, something about brought together a few disconnected concepts.
If you are open to suggested testing, I’d be interested in seeing how those 220 grit teeth look coming off a heel-to-tip stroke compared to a tip-to-heel stroke.
On a regular saw blade, I can tell if it’s a push saw or a draw saw by looking at the teeth.
Would these knife ‘teeth’ show the same directionality?
And just for grins, because MirrorEdge showed us close-ups of the diamond stones and you showed us the 220 teeth, how about a picture of what the steel dust looks like at magnification?
Does it come off in sheets, in chunks, in crystiline pattern, in random swarf or complex geometrical shapes?
And, how does burnishing with leather move metal?
Seems rules are a bit different down there….
Keep going you guys, I’m trying to stay caught up! 🙂
Thanks for the great new depth of information in the science and the art.
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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……….. (He says as he listens to the clickity-clak of paring knife cleaning an apple on a glass cutting board wafts from the kitchen.) Clay, now that I’m getting better at visualizing a sharp edge, I shudder to think of what those glass cutting board edges look like under your scope.
…. a near mirror polished 180 degree (inclusive) micro-bevel!! ~~~~
With the above quote, imagine a carrot, a knife and a glass cutting board — listen and “enjoy” this sound….
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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Resurrecting a theme…
From article: Paper Cut: Testing Blade Sharpness at
Using newspaper test The Bite, The Glide and The Fillet.
And, of course, there’s always these:
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Nova’s Emperor’s Ghost Army (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/emperors-ghost-army.html) has some intesting segments on forged “sharp” things…. Watched it after the latest episode of “Forged In Fire”.
Good day, everyone.
For Now…
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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Speaking of knife shows, we’ll be attending the IWA show in Nuremburg, Germany this March: https://www.iwa.info/en We’d love for anyone in the area to come visit if possible. Here is the floor map with our booth shown: https://www.iwa.info/en/ausstellerprodukte/edb3searchnew?search=wicked+edge&x=0&y=0
Clay, Thanks for the invitation. I would love to be in the area to come spend some time! 🙂
Enjoyed reading “The Inspiration”… one of my Dad’s most prized possessions was his two-sided field stone. The stars still out with the first light of dawn and the smell of camp-fire coffee and the sound of the fire and the swish-swush of Dad sharpening everyone’s knives before the hunt.
Best wishes for safe travel, grand adventure and good fortune. All well-deserved.
For Now,
Gib
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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Most people I’ve sharpened for, I’ve used the standard paper test when they give me the blade…. have them do it so they can see, feel & hear what it sounds like. Might even have them slice a tomato or cucumber (job dependent to the knife).
Then, when we do the after, they, too, can see, feel and hear the improvement. Slice the old cucumber again and see “that” look in their eye…. knowing that they are having that “OMG this is sharp” moment of sublime satisfaction.
……..I’ve found that if an edge has any issues, it will show pretty much right away, if it passes this, it should hold for a while.
This point highlights where I lack confidence and I question my edges…. the part I can’t control. How long will it stay sharp?
Again emphasizing the importance of matching knife profile, materials, edge geometry, function AND person to the sharpening being done.
(He says as he listens to the clickity-clak of paring knife cleaning an apple on a glass cutting board wafts from the kitchen.)
Clay, now that I’m getting better at visualizing a sharp edge, I shudder to think of what those glass cutting board edges look like under your scope.
…. a near mirror polished 180 degree (inclusive) micro-bevel!!~~~~
For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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That’s a nice job, Gib! I had to laugh when you wrote about the Dremel. And I was wondering: blade grinding with the Ken Onion Worksharp, does that actually work?
For a small, portable belt grinder, yeah, it works. Were I looking at a lot of major blade grinding I would definitely upgrade in a different direction. (Bottom end — less than $50 for a Harbor Freight belt grinder)
It’s about $150 for the WS Ken Onion plus $100 for the Blade grinding attachment. .
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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We’ve been traveling since Thanksgiving. Takes time and energy to sharpen and, additionally, to write about it!!
And, I’m not writing about using the Wicked Edge so this is “off topic” but I’m writing about it in “What Am I Sharpening Today” so it’s on topic.
I wrote last year about sharpening pocket and kitchen knives for friends and family who don’t really get “it”. They don’t know the difference between 15 degrees and 30 degrees. And that sound isn’t fingernails on blackboards, it’s knives being used on glass cutting boards and ceramic plates. “Gib, why do my knives get dull so fast!?!”
My solution isn’t to carry my Wicked Edge with me everywhere on these family visits and sojourns. Sorry, the quality level of the knives of which I speak simply doesn’t demand being sharpened on the Wicked Edge – unless it’s just for practice. (And I wouldn’t put a really good knife in any of the households.)
I have given several households a Smith’s pull-through sharpener with multiple angles – about $25 (http://www.smithsproducts.com/product/adjustable-angle-pull-thru-knife-sharpener/ ). And then, I just sharpen everything at 15 or 20 degrees. I tell them when I’m not around, to give the knife a pull or two through the Fine after every couple of uses.
When I am around, I do any “re-profiling” or edge work. I usually carry the WorkSharp Field Sharpener (http://www.worksharptools.com/guided-field-sharpener.html ) and really like working with it. It’s good at what it does.
But, also, here at my mother-in-law’s I’ve gathered through Christmas and Birthday presents a WorkSharp Ken Onion with the Blade grinding attachment. I can do a little hand work and power belt work. A nice little set-up but I still miss having my WE close at hand.
Soooooo, anyway, a neighbor here is a knife guy and we’ve talked sharpening. Knowing I sharpen he brought me something he said he couldn’t do anything with – his camp kukri… He told me someone else (of course) had taken a Dremel to it.
It was pretty beat up. I did a little clean-up on the “body” of the blade and the handle. I really wanted to do more on the “big” bevel but the damage was just too deep from the Dremel, so I cleaned it up a bit.
The main edge is 30 degrees per side.
I loved the look in his eyes when I chopped a 1″x 1″ garden stake in half and then sliced typing paper!!
He said the piece had never been this sharp.
For Now,
Gib Curry
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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Thanks Cliff! Where you been at lately anyway? Was just wondering that earlier today! Busy sharpening over the holidays
Josh,
Thanks for taking this on.. I’ve added my home in Washington but am going to be spending significant time outside San Diego. Can I post two locations?
For Now,
Gib
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
Merry Christmas all. A safe and joyous holidays to you all.
The Wicked Edge sharpener, this forum and the encyclopedic knowledge and abundant wisdom of the people involved have been a daily gift. Thank you all.
I’ve sharpened several different families’ holiday cutlery and came down to yesterday and had some time for me!!
I’ve got the ProPack II with “just” the standard steel, stone & leather. And, no, I wouldn’t classify or try to qualify for the “Mirror Edge Forum” but this baby looks great and cuts better. My current EDC is a CRKT Viele 8001 WASP.
The details:
- Blade Overall length: 2.87 (7.3 cm)
- Cutting edge: 2.75 (7.0 cm)
- Thickness: 0.12 (0.3 cm)
- Steel: AUS 118, 59-60 HRC
- Handle Closed length: 4.00 (10.2 cm)
- Weight: 2.5 ounces (71 g)
- Scales are G10, in a custom laminate of alternating blue and black fiberglass
The knife is discontinued but I know there are a couple in stock at a place in downtown Seattle or via their website.
(http://www.gr8gear.com/columbia-river-8001-viele-wasp-medium-plain-folding-knife.html#.Vn1JthUrLIU )
I only “matched” the angle using a Sharpie. It’s down around 15 degrees per side and makes a nice box cutter, letter opener, tag remover.
I also, ever-so-slightly rounded just about every edge on it, including the clip, pivot and thumbstud. Now it’s a bit more pocket & finger friendly.
Now, please don’t expand the photos too much or you’ll see how NOT mirror the edge actually is.
Happy Holidays, everyone.
For Now,
Gib
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For Now,Gib
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"Everyday edge for the bevel headed"
"Things work out best for those who make the best out of the way things work out."
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