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03/10/2025 at 6:59 pm #59310
Thanks again! Just got approved for the FB group, so I will look through there as well. I’m guessing that the single-sided scrubbing might give you less of a polished edge, but can definitely help with overall sharpness (and help you even out those uneven spots). Going to set up my Paramilitary 2 today and see what new things I can learn!
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03/10/2025 at 12:59 am #59308Finally had time to go through the videos, thank you so much for taking the time to explain things for me!
– You mentioned scrubbing in the first video, I like to do this in the beginning with the low grits to set the apex. Do you do that for grits higher than 50/80/100? This time around, I used a sharpie for each stone all the way up to 2200 to make sure i was making good contact all along the edge with each stone. You mentioned the slight variation previously, and it helped me see where to focus with each passing stone.
– Very good point about the alternating strokes and “cancelling them out”! I’m going to try and keep it in the same direction and see how that turns out next time.
– Thank you for sharing your experiences with the setback angle. I definitely apply a decent amount of pressure and roll over the edge more often than not when stropping, so I should work on applying good pressure and building that muscle memory/dexterity. The 2° setback is definitely a safety mechanism for newbies like me — I should try lifting up or letting off the pressure when I get towards the bottom of the strop.
– Yeah, I kinda went wild with the strops!
I have the 5/3.5 pastes, and the rest are emulsions. I usually just finish with the basic 5/3.5, but for my nicer pocket knives I try to experiment with the fancier stuff. While I feel like I’m getting a good feel for the stones, stropping is going to be the next big thing I’m going to have to work on.
At the end of the day, I finally felt comfortable with my WE to sharpen my fanciest knife, and I feel like I’m learning and did a good job overall. So, I’m taking it as a win and will strive to do even better next time!
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03/10/2025 at 12:28 am #59304The challenges of trying to achieve that perfect mirror polish and the point of diminishing returns led me more towards the pursuit of a good sharp working edges and maybe not ones that are so mirror perfect.
This was what I really needed to hear after all the time I put in today, haha! I’m very happy with how sharp the knife is, and that I took the time to make sure the tip/choil end of the knife were finished before moving onto the next stone. I tend to get antsy and just assume it will work itself out later on down the line, but I notice less of a “bite” on those areas if I dont take the time to make sure it all looks pretty even under the microscope. I’m going to just use and enjoy the edge I have for now, and once its dull, try and see if I can do better next time. I’m sure a lot of those scratches are leftovers from lower grits.
I need to do some more experimentation with the stropping angle and see how it affects things. A shiny bevel is nice for pictures, but it isnt very useful if it dulls the cutting edge — I’m sure theres a sweet spot like everything else.
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03/09/2025 at 7:27 pm #59298Thank you very much, Marc! Over the years you’re taught me to be very mindful of my strokes, but as with all things, I’m just hoping to take it to the next level.
I was still very happy with how the edge turned out, but wasn’t sure what grit to go back to/if I need to adjust the stropping angle if I want to “buff” it better.
Going to watch the videos once I get home tonight!
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03/08/2025 at 10:39 am #59284Thank you! I sent them an email, and you are completely correct. They are revamping everything and the low angle adapter is back in stock now. Now to decide if I want to upgrade to the new vise sometime — it looks awesome, and solves the issue with the blade play, but it’s always annoying to have to figure out all of my blade positions once again. I feel like I’m bad at the angle cube.
07/14/2023 at 12:30 pm #58634Knowing me, I will probably end up with a bunch of different rods eventually but 15 just feels a little too big. 14 also seems long, but I’m taking into account the Riser block on the 120. Should give me a lot of options for working with all kinds of blade sizes!
07/14/2023 at 8:36 am #58632Thank you!!
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Looks like the WE120UP1 is the upgrade that will give me an extra 5° per side + the micro adjustments (similar to the plastic screws you sent my way a while back!). This seems to be more in line with what I’m hoping to achieve– and is the same price as the low angle adapter.</p>
Now to decide if I should go with the 12, 14, or 15″ guide rods. I should probably set mine up and grab a tape measure and see what would work best. There were a couple times sharpening large knives that I was worried the stones would come off, so maybe the 14 would be safer.07/13/2023 at 11:29 pm #58630Went to go order the emulsions, and got to thinking whether I could use the low-angle adapter and some longer rods as well? I’m not looking to reprofile edges down to crazy angles — I’d just like to be able to sharpen very small and very tall knives more easily.
I have the current pro pack 1, which has 8″ rods. I was just thinking of getting the longest rods so I could tackle anything; but since that’s almost 2x as long as my current ones it may be kind of overkill.
Also, any good videos on using the angle guide cube? I’ve seen a few different methods, and I’m not sure what’s the right way to do it when youre working with the WE.
07/08/2023 at 7:03 pm #58625Well, my birthday came and went, and I ended up with the 2/1 emulsions and cow strops, as well as a bonus kangaroo strops! What can I say, she’s a keeper!
Now I’m left with the crippling decision of what to do with what. I was thinking of ordering the 4u and 0.5u sprays, and then using the cow for 4/2, and the kangaroo for 1/0.5 after our discussion about using the softer leathers for lower grit compounds.
I assume you cant really clean the strops and change grits after you load them up, so I haven’t used them yet. If something else might be better, please let me know! Whatever I do, I’m going to take my time and spend a lot of time with my microscope in hopes of getting better results over time!
05/19/2023 at 9:29 am #58551You strop after every stone progression? If I recall correctly, you keep it at the same angle as the stones and take lots of care to not nick the leather.
After talking with you last time, I realized that I was rushing through things and started examining my bevels with a scope and taking my time to remove all the scratches. That really made a big difference! Still working on my technique, but starting to get things dialed in a little more.
I’ll pass on the kangaroo for now, and maybe pick up an extra strop down the road since I was accidentally sent 1/0.5u paste a while back and have nothing to put it on. The 2/1 seems like the logical next step for now!
05/19/2023 at 8:33 am #58549<p style=”text-align: left;”>I dont see a “pack” of 1u/2u strops like the other ones, so I’ll probably get them separately. Given that I currently have 5 and 3, would make more sense to get those two vs the cow leather + emulsion bundles of 4/2 or 1/0.5.</p>
Is the softer kangaroo leather mostly used for finer grits? It would be fun to try, but given that I’m still working on my technique, it’s probably better to stick with the cow leather for now.
05/18/2023 at 11:27 am #58548Thank you so much!
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05/18/2023 at 9:01 am #58545I can definitely tell the difference when I work slowly and alternate strokes (while I apply light pressure). At first, I was just kind of quickly doing it with long strokes, which is a very dangerous game to play when it comes to leather!
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If I wanted to try out the emulsions, should I get anothet set of leather strops first? Not sure what micron would pair best with the current 5/3.5 pastes I’ve tried so far. My girlfriend is hoping to get me a birthday present, so I wanted to send her a little WE shopping list
05/18/2023 at 8:24 am #58543<span style=”color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;”>Thank you, Marc!</span>
<span style=”color: #000000; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;”>I have noticed the pastes to be kind of flaky and tricky to work with, but I assumed that was mostly due to user error. Maybe I should give the emulsions a try next, and possibly the kangaroo leather? Since I have the 3.5/5 currently, I’m guessing I’d want the next emulsion down the line (maybe the 2 and 4, or 1 and 0.5?)? I am open to suggestions if a particular type of strop/spray would make a larger difference!</span>
09/02/2022 at 10:09 am #58162It only takes a very few strokes with an 800-grit stone to flatten an edge. I think using a regular file is a bad idea.
Thank you for the clarification. I have to remember that while it looks catastrophic under the microscope, I can barely see it with my naked eye. Maybe I’ll try a couple swipes just to see how the edge changes under the microscope to better understand.
I’m guessing tcmeyer is not assessing Ribstabsheart’s edge damage as being significant which is why Tom’s recommending the 800 grit method and thinks the file is a “bad idea”. Possibly, tcmeyer thinks the edge damage can be removed easily and the original profile recued. I have used a hand-held metal file horizontally/longitudinally across a damaged knife edge and removed the damage edge with good success. That I followed with a total edge reprofiling. When you’re needing to remove a lot of edge damage here’s a discussion on reprofiling, essentially the same process, from an earlier W.E. forum post. Read the full thread. In that earlier forum post using a file was discussed. tcmeyer even made a custom W.E. paddle setup with “first-cut” files. Bevel Angle Change Question… – Wicked Edge Precision Knife Sharpener (wickededgeusa.com)
Thank you, Marc! I will read this post and take some notes. The file would probably be pretty handy if I ever get handed a blade that was used as a pry bar. I’m afraid to look at my first Spyderco under the scope, because I used it in some very dumb ways a decade ago, haha.
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