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04/29/2022 at 11:49 am #57852
Eager to see how that works out!
04/29/2022 at 11:48 am #57851Thanks, Brandon.
Here’s the micro-bevel:
04/12/2022 at 11:04 am #57828The owner mentioned that the tip had been broken off, so you’re on the money.
At least it’s now sharp all the way to the re-shaped tip:
I could reshape it to match the original profile if the owner wants.
04/12/2022 at 10:07 am #57823I recently purchased the Pluggable ‘scope after reading the reviews on the WE forum. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XNYXQHE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here’s a sample of what you can expect from it:
Scratch pattern of a 2,200 grit WE stone.
What’s the magnification?
This is 5mm:
These pics are down-sized for posting. When using the camera with my laptop, the image completely fills the 13″ screen. The photos are taken hand-held with the bezel of the ‘scope in contact with the subject.
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04/12/2022 at 9:53 am #57822Morning, Tom.
I’d agree that the original bevel was convex. The 12 dps setting hit the center of the bevel, so it was what I went with. You can see I didn’t have a lot to work with at the beginning. You can also see that my bevel is a little wider than the original.
I added a 15 dps micro bevel using about 10 strokes each side with the 1,500 stone just to try to prevent edge break-out. We’ll see how it holds up, as this will be in daily use in the pub kitchen.
Now to educate the owner in how to care for a high-carbon blade! As you can see from the “before” pics, much of the edge damage was pitting from being poorly cleaned and dried. I gave the blade a good wipe-down with some food-safe mineral oil, and will encourage the owner to do the same after every use. Hand-wash and dry immediately, of course.
Before and after:
04/11/2022 at 8:24 pm #57814OK, Marc, so maybe rewarding, but far from easy.
Here’re a couple two or three pics from sharpening this knife:
After starting with 200 grit.
Later with 400 grit:
Still peeling edge off.
600 grit, still peeling the edge.
800 grit, starting to get a real edge:
1,000 grit, still some edge breakout, but better:
After 15 minutes or so of 1,000 grit:
1,500 grit. Now we’re actually getting sharp!
2,200 grit is starting to look really good, and as far as I can currently go:
I think the pictures tell the story. Everything up to about 800 was shaping and repair. 1K and above were actually sharpening the edge.
What I learned?
Be gentle! Laying the stone on the edge of the blade should be like a mosquito landing on the back of your neck. The pressure on the stone? None. Like a whisp of hair blowing across a woman’s face. Could kinda get a little sensual….
All were edge-leading strokes, alternating tip-first to heel-first, finishing with heel-first on every pair of stones.
Total time spent: 3 hours, 2 beers.
04/11/2022 at 3:13 pm #57811Some idea of what I’m up against here, pictures from heel to tip (heel to the left, tip to the right in all pictures):
I started with 200 grit and have made about 15 strokes each side, edge-leading 12 dps measured. I seem to have already hit the apex, except, of course, for the chips and gouges.
I hope he takes better care of this after I sharpen it!
04/02/2022 at 3:53 pm #57785Reviving this thread two years later….
Seems the price point may have to come up a little with inflation since ’17. Maybe under $30 or so?
My favorites are the little Swiss army pocketknives–no bells nor whistles nor corkscrews: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001P14ZE?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details Easy on the pocket and pocketbook.
I just finish touching up the factory edge on one of these that I bought a friend to replace the POS I threw away for him. Victorinox is pretty good steel for the price.
The Opinel #8 is also a great choice still–either carbon or SS (Inox). I carry the filet knife version at all times and like to give away the traditional “peasant’s knife” version to friends who like a little more blade.
Mine:
I have no use for a “multi-tool” type knife. I’ve had several, including Victorinox and Leatherman. I have a Leatherman Wave a boss on a construction job gave me years ago. I don’t recall if I ever used it enough to have to touch up a blade. It’s around here somewhere. Not only are these knives too heavy and bulky to carry, but I almost always carry a 6″ Crescent wrench (real Crescent) and 6-way screwdriver on me. Sometimes a 6″ pair of Vise Grips, too. I fix things for a living so need real tools handy.
I’ve never been a fan of the Wegner brand Swiss Army knives. I don’t even recall why. I just tend to think of them as the “second-rate” SAKs.
04/02/2022 at 1:51 pm #57784Marc: I use a lot of magnets around the shop, and also work a lot of ferromagnetic metals. I’ve found the best (only?) way to clean the magnets is a high volume, high pressure blowgun from my compressor. It really knocks those wads of filings for a loop.
Tom: Thanks! I’ve gotta sharpen a knife right now, but I’ll peruse those links later.
The only real problem with using the scissors jack to support the handle of the knife–just against sag, not sideways motion–was that it interfered with my elbow some when sharpening. A smaller jack might also be just fine.
04/02/2022 at 11:47 am #57778I need to do some before/after pics of a blade sharpened with the WEPS and then burnished on a smooth steel. In my experience, it makes for a much smoother-cutting knife, but I haven’t used it after the WEPS yet.
The steel is at home, and my sharpening/photography is done in the shop at work, so I need to get my feces cohesive.
04/02/2022 at 10:53 am #57777Thanks, all.
Marc: I found this mounting using the Sharpie method to find the “sweet spot”. It still didn’t match the old profile (probably not the original), but came much closer than mounting with the straight portion flat to the jaws. I checked angles on the stones at various points along the blade, and this was the best compromise for a continuous 20 dps. With the back of the blade resting on the rear pin, and the front edge barely engaging the jaws of the vise, it should be easy to duplicate.
AAG is on its way with my new paddles and rods, so it will be easier to document oddballs like this in the future.
Tom: I’d appreciate that parts list for the vacuum-mount unit. I found the selection on the website a little mind-boggling. Do they offer a magnetic base? My shop bench has a 3/8″ steel plate, so a mag base would work very nicely.
Now I have a little Swiss Army gentleman’s knife to do for a friend. It’s brand-new, so shouldn’t take much. He wants a steeper angle on the main blade and a surgical edge on the smaller one.
04/01/2022 at 7:15 pm #57769For my carbon steel (not stainless) blades, I use Renaissance Wax. It works incredibly well, even preventing the blade edge from oxidizing and losing its sharp in storage.
Food safe? It’s a few microns thick. “Food safe” is largely a matter of having the substance certified by the FDA, which is very expensive. I recall asking my LocTite tech about the difference between “food grade” and the regular stuff. He said “About twenty bucks”.
04/01/2022 at 3:44 pm #57768I took the shelf unit off the Pro G3. I used some little rubber feet on the bottom and it seems to be very stable on the 3/8″ chunk of steel on my shop bench.
I’m much more comfortable keeping my hands down below my shoulders, but still standing. I spend about half of most of my days sitting in front of a computer screen, so try to stand when practical. I now need to get used to looking down on the the blade, rather than down the length of it.
BTW, that’s a Smithfield breaking knife I’m working on, a challenging blade to sharpen with the WEPS.
I’m sacrificing that shoulder of the vise as I can’t get the blade any higher and keep the angles consistent. The knife is too long and flexible for the Tormek Small Knife adapter.
04/01/2022 at 1:17 pm #57764I’ve seen those. Cell phone support, right? I forget the brand, but probably a better solution than the do-all scissors jack. It’s just what I had around the shop, and it worked.
I really envy the set-up in the second picture. My workbench is also my workbench for work, so I have to set up and break down every time I use the WEPS.
I also work standing up, and I think I’ll try taking the shelf assy. off of the Pro G3 vise so I can look down more on the blade. As it is, the knife is about even with my shoulders, and I get tired of this position pretty fast and find myself taking lots of breaks while sharpening.
03/31/2022 at 3:55 pm #57751Nice Knife and great idea on the scissor jack! You will find the bottom stone stop very helpful when setting the angle. You can place it so the stone is centered on the the blade for a more stable measurement, assuming you are using the digital angle cube.
I can’t wait to get them! I’m currently using a “bulldog” paperclip to hold the stone centered on the blade when measuring for angles.
Here’s the so-far finished knife:
In its hand-tooled sheath:
Marc–that looks like part of a tripod. It would need something to anchor it to the benchtop. Maybe something as simple as a plumbing wall-flange would do the trick? I’m tempted to get one just to experiment with. Might be real handy for the USB ‘scope, too.
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