Wicked Edge GO, deluxe bag, and bundle package

As someone who sharpens for the enjoyment of the activity (and the sharp knives, obviously) rather than someone who need a sharp knife ASAP (professional chef / butcher, hunter dressing game in the field, sharpening for money), I would say that a few extra seconds spent on a grit change is of no consequence. If I’m investing an hour into a single knife I don’t worry about a minute or two total extra time.

I’m not convinced that there would be a net loss in time. If the new paddle design had the built in angle gauges and there was no measurable play in the stone / rod, the extra time spent on swapping diamond plates might be made up for by spending less time on adjustments and not needing to do as many strokes to remove errant scratches resulting from the play in the rod / paddle junction.

Having ordered the GO I think that 100/200, 400/600, 800/1000 with one set of leather strops either 4/2 emulsion or 5/3.5 paste would be the combination that I would prefer. The Idea of 200/400 then 600/800 and one set of strops 5/3.5 on leather would be a very good combination as well I think. The 800 finish is a great working edge and refining that with the strops takes it to a different level of sharp. For entry level sharpener or as a field sharpener the 200 thru 800 stones with the strops would help keep the price down and give very good results as well in my opinion. I would upgrade my purchase to that combination. I have the PP3 with a really great case so if I want my full arsenal I can pack that up and travel with it as well but the go will be much easier for travel and the PP3 is a little cumbersome for the field.

Don’t really think the pro paddles are the way to go in a GO package but might be great to offer as stand alone options for any system you may all ready have.

Well, as usual, I got the itch with regard to the magnetic handles idea, so I had to put one together…

First, I milled (planed, actually) a stick of 1" X 1" ABS down to 0.935" thick, figuring that the stones are an average of 0.125" thick. The target for from face to face distance is 1.187". 1.187" minus 0.25".

I machined four 1/2" diameter by 0.125" deep pockets to hold the neodymium magnets I had on hand. On the first side, I used a router table, as it has a relatively accurate vertical adjustment. Unfortunately, the lowest speed of my router was still too fast for ABS and the plastic melted in the center of the bore, even though I had pre-drilled it to 1/4" diameter.

The opposite side of the handle was drilled with a 1/2" diameter Forstner bit. The ABS didn’t like that either and the holes were slightly over-sized, making some form of glue necessary, and the depth was harder to control, requiring a bit of shim stock to make them even.

The magnet had to be pressed in on the router side, and would probably need to be glued in on the Forstner side.

On both sides, the magnet faces protrude slightly from the handle, resulting in a slightly larger distance from the center of the guide rod bore. It did not, however, appear to make the stone faces unstable. They are solid and would not move around without some deliberate external force being applied.

You can easily slide the stones off to the side, or for that matter, to the end, when needed to change stones.

I added a screw-driver notch on each side. The photos below show that capability. Although this worked quite well, I think I’d prefer to push the stone off toward one end or the other. If you lift the stone away from the magnets, they’ll find out some way of pinching you to see if you scream like a girly.

In use, I don’t see any reason why the magnet-held stones wouldn’t work just fine. One simple change to address any concerns about stone position would be to add a very small raised section along the edges to keep the stone centered on the handle. Imagine the current handle design without the raised edges at the ends.

No, I don’t have this handle configured so that I could actually test it in use. Meanwhile, I be glad to answer any questions.

Here’s the first photo showing the handle without stones:

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Next shows a stone attached, but turned to show the magnets and the notch for the screw-driver removal:

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Next is the mounted stone, showing how a screwdriver could be used to lift the stone off of the magnet faces:

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And last is showing how rotating the screwdriver (very little effort required) would break the magnetic hold, allowing the user to remove the stone:

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Clay, whatever you do with the Pro GO kit, please just keep it Compact I am a professional sharpener while at home but 1/2 the year offshore so I would love to bring one offshore with me

Magnets make stone a debris collector. Metal dust will be all over the stone. I doubt it is a good idea.

I’ll throw in my .02… fwiw…

200/600 is a great “2 step” sharpening combo… and meets the purpose that Clay mentioned earlier… coarse stone to shape an edge, and a fine stone to refine it a bit… quick and get back to work. The basics of most sharpeners uses this simple 2-step process… which is what I thought the intention of the Go was. 200/400 is too close to be beneficial. Some of you are basically “building” what is already available, and trying to make a sharpener that will do it all. Give the 200/600 combo a try on a few knives, and I think you’ll start to realize its potential. Keep in mind that you’re not always looking to obtain the “best” edge, and you’re not trying to necessarily remove all the 200g with the 600g… just an edge that is shaped, refined a bit, burr free, and will do the job. If you need more than this… there are other models for that. Not to say you can’t get the Go, and build on it if you want… but it shouldn’t start out that way. (Heck, I’d even do a 100/600… depending on the condition of the knives I mostly saw…).

Magnets… use the magnet to hold the stone to the blank… but not to hold the stone in place. It doesn’t need to be very strong to do this. Even with the current WE stones… with the raised edge all around the stone… one or two “low power” magnets will do the job, and will reduce the chance of the buildup of filings, etc. If you’re prying stones off with a screwdriver, having to slide them off, etc… too much. (But please, if you do a redesign… get rid of the lip… it’s like the bezel on a cell phone)…

Willis68… probably hit the nail on the head… in one sentence.

Great ideas, guys, the magnetic stones. At least when you want it to take up little room; it seems a great idea for the GO. I’m not a mechanical engineer, so it’s hard for me to judge these ideas, but my first impression is definitely very good.

 

I agree and actually think that the 50/80 grit stones would be better suited for the GO bundle than any of the higher stones (800/1000 and up) after watching Clay reprofile the chipped pairing knife in his recent video.

 

@wickededge how do we upgrade our pre-order to one of these bundles?

I would also love to know how to upgrade the pre-order bundles.

We haven’t decided on any bundled kits yet, but we will make the deluxe bags available soon.

Just received my go. Exceeded all my expectations. I can’t imagine what a deluxe bag would be made of better than this one. The stone selection is perfect as well. I intend to use it just as it was designed. Get knives sharp on the road. No mirror edges or hours spent on edge art. I also sharpen knives for friends when rving. The 600 grit edge is far better than most have from the factory. And I can do any abused knife in 10 minutes or less. The go will be a hit and I suspect sell like nuts. When I did this with the field and sport “rv sharpening” I had them sold on the wicked edge right up till I told them $400 for the rig. $200 should land some sales! Great job. Thanks

Rene

Just received my GO today so looking forward to experiencing it. I have a WE130 but wanted to experience this and demonstrate it to others. I believe this could compete with sharpeners that are far inferior and at $199 is affordable.

I think the deluxe bag and the 800/1000 stones would be a great bundled offering. Maybe keeps the price at a good price point as well.

Be sure to write up a full review for us once you have had some time with it. It will be interesting to hear your thoughts considering you have a full fledged WE setup already.

I received my WEGO on Friday. After having it a few days and going back to re-read this thread, I have the following comments.

  1. One extra set of pockets will work on a bundle. I picked up the 800/1000 stones with mine and some 0.5/0.35 strops. I would say that an 800/1000 stone combo would be the bundled stones, but I think a 800/1200 might be better. It seems that the best edge is probably going through all progressions, but it would seem skipping a set of stones is not the end of the world. A 200/600 and 800/1200 would be the best combo.
  2. Strops: I think these are a must, but as pointed out earlier here, a single strop is more than enough, you don't really spend a lot of time stropping, so two, two-sided strops is overkill IMHO.
  3. Luxury case: The case on the WEGO is perfect. If you were going to do a bundle, I think you could keep adding and adding until the thing is too heavy to carry or you have a Field and Sport Pro. If you want to keep it simple, refer to my comments in #1. You almost don't need strops, you can just use the leg of your jeans.
  4. The tools on this kit are perfect, I would say the alignment guide is kind of unnecessary, but buying a Wixey angle guide is a must. So I definitely would make it part of the package.
I love my WEGO and other than buying a set of Superfine or 1500/Glass Platens, I think its perfect.

Certainly Organic I will let you know what I think of it. I’ve only done one old junk knife just to familiarize myself with it’s setup, use and to start breaking the stones in.

Initial thought…it’s better constructed that I thought and I was expecting quite a bit. I think the redesign was spot on and worth the wait. Sets up quick, very solid when clamped to the table and packs up quick and easy into a very small light package. Also the angle adjustment was a pleasant surprise. The adjusters don’t set in notches but slide smoothly inside the track and tighten with tension very securely. With an angle gauge it will be simple to set the angle pretty accurately so the micro adjusters are not really missed. It’s very smooth and worked very well on the knife I did. So far I don’t have anything but good things to report on the GO.

I will report on it more after I’ve had more experience with it.