GREGARY WATKINS
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02/04/2012 at 12:38 am #1536
I guess that could sound confusing. I was talking about APPLYING the paste to the strops. Obviously when you strop, you go the other way and cleaning the edge as you describe is correct.
Whoops, my mistake! Makes sense now. π
01/12/2012 at 3:22 am #1345I don’t have a very large or expensive collection of knives since I’m just starting out as a knife nerd. My favorite folder may come out of left field to many folks: the Spyderco Manix 2. It’s a knife I figured wouldn’t be an instant favorite when I ordered it on a whim but it was just interesting enough to get. When I finally got it I saw all of the positive and negative things about it in person. Before I knew it, it was getting the most pocket time out of all my favorites.
It has a really thick spine for a folder of its size so it sucks at slicing, but at the same time I know it’s tough as nails. The hollow grind is less than half the height of the blade total so the approach angle to the edge is fairly obtuse, therefore making it bad for slicing/penetrating cuts, but again it’s definitely tough as nails thanks to thickness. Also on the “tough” train of thought, the blade is supported by a gigantic chunk of steel extending 2″ down the spine of the handle instead of just a regular “stop pin” most folders tend to use to brace the blade when opened. The blade shape does lend itself to thrusting or piercing cuts, but only because of the shape, not necessarily the size or grind style. I’ve got plenty of useable edge showing for any task I’m likely to encounter in daily life. There’s not much of a belly on the blade thanks to the typical Spyderco shape but the tip portion has been tough enough that I don’t necessarily need to transition to belly cuts. 154cm steel may not be considered “premium” by some peoples’ opinions, but I’ve put it through hell and back during a full day’s work at 17-degrees per side in both a Benchamade 550 Griptillian and this knife cutting tons of heavy appliance cardboard, packing tape, heavy nylon banding, light fiber/nylon banding, shipping twine, lumber shipping tarps, plastic wrap, and shrink wrap 8 hours a day 5 days a week. No chipping or rolling of the edge, just normal dulling after a couple days. To quote ‘nutnfancy’ from one of his Youtube videos regarding 154cm steel: “If you can’t do a job with 154cm, you’re doing it wrong”. It’s heavy for a folder. G10 scaled handles, full steel liners, a 2″ steel stop block, and a thick blade make it heavier than average, but that’s just another toughness assurance to me. I subscribe to the ‘a knife should have a presence in the hand’ school of thought instead of the ‘a knife should be so light you forget its there’ school of thought. Personal preference on my part. There isn’t a single way you could grip this knife and not get great traction – the entire G10 handle, forward spine, rearward bottom finger area, primary forefinger slot, secondary finger choil slot, and thumb ramp area all have exceptional jimping in the standard non-radius ground Spyderco style.
After so many words, the bottom line is that the Spyderco Manix 2 doesn’t necessarily excel at any one particular task or job profile, but it is tough enough to handle ANY task I’d ever expect a folder to tackle as an EDC blade (and possibly a defensive/tactical blade too, but let’s not get into that right now). When I set out into the world every day, I don’t know what cutting tasks I will encounter, so I don’t need a blade specialized to one or two particular tasks – I need a blade that will handle anything and everything with good performance in all tasks and not fail or break. I think this is it so far. Maybe my collection will expand into another favorite later, but this is my full-time pocket resident for now.
Less like a knife that is built like a tank, more like a tank that was built to be a knife.
P.S: Notice the near-mirror polish the Wicked Edge 3.5 micron strop set gives this blade. This was a rushed and sloppy strop job but still reflects the tabletop π
Attachments:01/12/2012 at 1:40 am #1343I bet it fights a bit, not a very soft steel with a nice touch of vanadium. One member of the Spyderco forum tested his S90V Mule to 59.2hrc and his Military to 58.8rc.
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36721
Bottom of first page.01/12/2012 at 1:26 am #1341If you’re doing multiple grits, start with the finest first then move up from there. For example, start with the 3.5 micron, then go to the 5 then 10. This way if you get some 3.5 micron paste on the 10 micron paddle, not so bad but the other way and you’ve ruined the entire thing.
I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this – are you saying strop in REVERSE order of grit? Maybe I missed a critical detail but what you’re saying that doesn’t quite make sense to me. Maybe you mean if you change strops without cleaning the edge between them in case the paste mixes between strops?
I clean the edge with either denatured alcohol or acetone after the 1000 grit diamond stones and then use the 10 micron strops. Then clean the same way before switching to the 5 micron. Then again before 3.5 micron. Working down in grit (coarsest-finest/10-3.5) makes sense to me – not stropping upward in grit. I must have missed something or misinterpreted your post. Forgive me if I’ve made a mistake here.
01/09/2012 at 9:30 pm #1326Just to make sure everything in this thread isn’t negative, I can say that the Wicked Edge gang are really on the ball as far as warranty replacement. I sent an email out to them on a late Tuesday night with pictures of the bent vise, and by Thursday morning I had a priority package in my mailbox containing a new vise set and a paid return slip to send the bent vise back. A day and a half turnaround time is pretty damn snappy to say the least. Not even sure how that’s possible, really.
01/06/2012 at 10:39 pm #1300Thought I’d chime in.
I’ve had the vise bend once already like the one posted on the first page of this thread within one month of ownership. It was replaced under warranty (yay!) but now the SECOND set is just barely beginning to bend just a couple weeks later. I’ve followed all of the clamping instructions to the letter including setting the width on the lower screw first etc. etc. and all of the knives I’ve put in it have parallel faces at the spine for the vise to grab onto perfectly (no flat ground blades). Once the slightest bend begins it’s all downhill from there presumably because the vise can no longer make very precise contact with the flats faces of the blade so it can rotate side-side a bit. I can do a full sharpening job on a knife, unclamp it, then immediately reclamp it, put some black sharpie on the edge and give a couple strokes with the 1000 grit diamonds. One side will rub the sharpie off at the shoulder, the other side right at the very tip. So now I have inconsistent clamping and bevel angles π
I’m fairly certain I’m not over-tightening it either – I’m pretty delicate with it. I’ll snug the top until the knife is supported on its own, then snug the bottom screw a quarter turn at a time just until I can wiggle the handle of the knife and it doesn’t move. No more, no less. That seems more than reasonable to me.
Hard to know what to think about 2 bent vises in a row.
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