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  • #25395
    jimbo45
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    Hi all I have a question for you. I just bought a MSC Ti SLCC to use for my fishing knife. My question is how should I sharpen this? The edge is carbidized? Basically is there something special I should do or not? Thanks in advance.

    #25396
    jimbo45
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    didn’t mean to post this under the welcome mat category if someone could move it I’d appreciate it.

    #25406
    Josh
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    I think you just sharpen one side so the carbidizing on the other side will “self sharpen” somewhat… very interesting!

    Read the narrative here

    #25407
    jimbo45
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    Well if that’s accurate then never mind

    #25411
    Gregg776
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    Josh stated:

    Read the narrative here…

    That is a very interesting little device. I would be concerned that it would ruin the heat treatment of a knife especially where the metal is thin near the edge and possibly do more damage than good. It shouldn’t be too hard to duplicate with a vibrating engraver, a tungsten TIG electrode and a little fiddling with power requirements.

    I know that titanium nitride coated drill bits don’t hold up as well after they have been sharpened the first time; even though the side where the chip forms is still coated. However a fishing knife that cuts relatively slowly compared to a drill bit may be just fine with only one side sharpened as long as a burr isn’t present.

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    Steven N. Bolin
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    I’m being completely honest when I say I have zero clue what you boys are talking about… And that’s ok 🙂

    #25428
    Zamfir
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    Josh stated:

    Read the narrative here…

    That is a very interesting little device. I would be concerned that it would ruin the heat treatment of a knife especially where the metal is thin near the edge and possibly do more damage than good. It shouldn’t be too hard to duplicate with a vibrating engraver, a tungsten TIG electrode and a little fiddling with power requirements.

    I know that titanium nitride coated drill bits don’t hold up as well after they have been sharpened the first time; even though the side where the chip forms is still coated. However a fishing knife that cuts relatively slowly compared to a drill bit may be just fine with only one side sharpened as long as a burr isn’t present.[/quote]

    Same thing I thought of. You would have to be trashing the heat treatment. But, maybe if you sharpen after that a good amount you might get to a good heat treated surface again? But then the carbide shell is thin..did it mess with the heat treat everywhere below it at a microscopic level? Which is what we are trying to achieve with sharpening. Then again, its Titanium so I am not real familiar with its heat treating and edge retention. I think the edge retention kind of sucks compared to most blade steel which is why they are putting on this carbide layer to begin with so maybe it is not a big deal.

    #25475
    jimbo45
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    Well I gave it a try and the results weren’t stellar. Knife is about the same to be honest. I might try running the 100 grit stones on the edge to get rid of the original edge and see if that helps

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    Josh
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    Can you get a hold of Mick Strider or one of his team and ask what they recommend?

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    Zamfir
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    What exactly did you try? Sharpening one side? the non carbidized side?

    #25481
    jimbo45
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    I may have to contact strider. Yes I sharpened the non carbidized side and just stropped the other

    #25482
    Zamfir
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    Did you create and then remove a burr?

    Stropping is not going to remove a burr but rather straighten it out and create a wire edge that will quickly fold over and not be sharp again soon.

    #25483
    jimbo45
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    To be honest I couldn’t ever actually feel an burr. I pulled it through some card board and that seemed to make it feel a little sharper so maybe it straightened the edge out some.

    #25484
    Leo Barr
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    Sounds a bit like white mans magic Greg voices my concerns about it perhaps it is good on steel that has not been heat treated .
    It reminds me of vibrsonic cleaning which doesn’t seem to work that well in general.
    It would be good to hear more about this process I followed the link to the machine which in itself looks like it would be easy to miss the edge using that tool.
    It seems that manufacturers keep trying to do away with sharpeners but often their idea of sharp is not that of Wicked Sharp.

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