How not to reach for your angle cube!

I originally posted this on the Spyderco forums … then today, figured you enjoy it … or not!!

I had my WE set up and ready to touch up the edge on my Spyderco Cat Wednesday evening (the knife I normally have in the pocket of my fleece, around the house, lounging pants). The steel is 440C, sharpens nicely, but doesn’t hold an edge as long as some of the premium steels.

Anyway, went to reach for my angle cube (as that is what I use exclusively, not paying much attention to the degree markings on the WE). The angle cube was on the back side of the WE set up and I had to pass my hand over the blade to reach it. You know, I hate aging eyesight. My depth perception at short distances isn’t what it used to be, even wearing progressive lenses. Anyway, long story short … misjudged the distance between my hand and the blade! Thought I might be able to repair the damage with my standard application of super glue … but soon realized that would be a no go. The end result:

The thing to note here is that this was all before I started touching up the edge!! The WE does produce a wicked edge!!

The really embarrassing thing about this is that it is not the first time I have “nicked” myself reaching across the blade for something. This was the worst, however. I should have learned by now!!

PS … I’ve touched up two more knives since then … and am keeping the angle cube in front of the WE set-up!!

Oops! That looks like a serious injury! :ohmy: Hope you’re doing well… you sound not too bad.

I always had to laugh when I read the warning on the WEPS box: “Your knives will become dangerously sharp … handle with care”, because it sounds like cheesy marketing blurb. Obviously I too can testify knives get very sharp on the WEPS, but I guess we should take the warning seriously…

Recover well! Good health!

Mark ..

Luckily, while the cut was very deep, I missed the major vein running up my thumb, and I didn’t hit any tendons or major nerves (I think!). On the bright side, I did give everyone in the ER a good laugh when I told them to put a rush on it because I had to get back home to finish sharpening the culprit knife!! Anyway … lesson learned … for real this time!

Ouch!

I have not done that … yet … but have been oh so very close so many times.

Trying to avoid that, a while ago I started setting up the WEPS on a platform (the container I store it and parts in), about 10" up from a low table I like to work on.

Everything I need is then lower and to the sides.
Think I’m gonna actually just build a quick open front box for it, so the hands have to pull back and lower and under to get the paddles, cube, towel, sharpie etc.

Great lesson to be learned there for all! I am moving all of my accessories to the front of my stand, just for this posting.

Thank you for sharing. Heal fast!

Here is one for only $19.95.I know there are trade off in dextarity and comfort, but Kevlar gloves are used regularly in production areas where sharp knives are in use. There is some controversy as to how well these things actually protect against very sharp blades, but you can always give one a try and see what you think.. There are many manufactures of these things and I am sure a Google search would reveal many options.

If anyone finds a great one, maybe they could report back here. Thanks -Dan

Dan …

Still feeling quite foolish here! Interesting … the gloves are something that never would have crossed my mind. In theory, it sounds like a great idea. Never having used them, makes me wonder how they would actually be in practice. After your post, I looked around and found many types of these. Many were coated with some type of latex for grip. My first thoughts were that wearing any type of glove would make things a little more difficult (even if providing for cut protection). Guess I would need to see some first hand reports on this and then actually try a pair on to determine fit. For now, I am just trying to be “aware” of what I am doing at all times and NOT placing things I need on the back side of the WE!

Sorry you had to learn the hard way. Maybe your mistake will make the rest of us a little more conscious. One thing I have noted (the hard way) is that when in the vice, a knife does not give way. I like the suggestions to keep all the stuff in front of the vice. Keep on sharpening.

Here is one for only $19.95.[quote quote=“BassLakeDan” post=3342]I know there are trade off in dextarity and comfort, but Kevlar gloves are used regularly in production areas where sharp knives are in use. There is some controversy as to how well these things actually protect against very sharp blades, but you can always give one a try and see what you think.. There are many manufactures of these things and I am sure a Google search would reveal many options.

If anyone finds a great one, maybe they could report back here. Thanks -Dan[/quote]

What do you guys think? Will a glove like this protect against stabs with a not-very-sharp knife? I was thinking of getting one for use with my oyster knife.

Sorry to hear about your injury Dennis. I’ve done the same thing myself reaching for my computer mouse to update my knife database. WEP was between me and the mouse with one of my kitchen knives mounted. Got a nice scar on the very edge of my hand opposite my thumb. Luckily it was shallow and did not bleed at all; super glue worked for me.

Cheers.

Man Dennis - :ohmy: sorry to hear about that :frowning:
Thanks for stepping up to share though to get the rest of us thinking about our setups so we don’t do the same thing!
Bob

BassLakeDan wrote:

[quote]I know there are trade off in dextarity and comfort, but Kevlar gloves are used regularly in production areas where sharp knives are in use. Here is one for only $19.95. There is some controversy as to how well these things actually protect against very sharp blades, but you can always give one a try and see what you think.. There are many manufactures of these things and I am sure a Google search would reveal many options.

If anyone finds a great one, maybe they could report back here. Thanks -Dan[/quote]

I’m curious too. I’ve had a number of folks tell me about these gloves but I’ve never tried them. Anyone out there have some experience with them. I’ve heard you can grab a blade and yank it away from someone - only hearsay though…

ONly down side I can think of on the glove idea is feeling. For instance, my fingers are always touched the edge bor bur and general smoothness, also feeling the edge after wipedowns.

On a grinder I do gloves as you have a good chance of it getting grabbed, especially when polishing.

I hate taking goves on and off.

Just my 2 cents.

I’m with you here Zig. As hard as I try, I have a hard time imagining using the WE while wearing gloves … though, I would like to see some first hand reports. For me … I can say with a good deal of conviction … that I have learned my lesson. The minor nicks I received in the past were not enough to impact me like this last one. Now … it is everything to the front of the unit and always double check where my hands are in relation to the mounted blade! I have even take cue from someone in an older thread, where a magazine or something like that was tented over a mounted blade if it was not actively being worked on. I just uses an envelope (the flap drapes nicely over the blade) to cover the blade if I take a break from sharpening.

For me, I am likely to be less careful with gloves, so the benefit would be negated.

Also, I place something like a shoebox over my WE when I have a knife in it anytime I leave it unattended.

that’s very interesting. are you talking about an oyster shucking tool ? if so, they are really more a screw-driver than a knife. in that case the glove is more to protect your hand against the oysters shell, which has many grainy points across its surface. after shucking a couple of dozen you will really know the meaning of “hot spots” :cheer:

this linkIf we are talking about the classic oyster tools here then there is a whole technology and science and a number of engineered products to protect yourself against 'screw driver stabs", like what you might self inflict with that instrument. Kevlar is only one (and a poor) solution to the problem: other designs are based on the physical properties of a material most of use are familiar with as kids, and that is ‘silly-putty’. static agglomeration of particles under pressure from the behavior of non-Newtonian fluids is actually quite fascinating and is the mechanism that makes these stab proof garments work; if you are a materials science junkie like I am then check out

this oyster knifeNo, I was talking about the “classic” oyster tool, so I need something to protect me against stabbing. In fact, I was considering to get , but I eventually didn’t get it, since it is really sharp. The thought of stabbing myself with that one… brrr.

I just ordered a kevlar glove, so I’ll let you know how well it works against cuts and stabs.

[quote quote=“mark76” post=3378]No, I was talking about the “classic” oyster tool, so I need something to protect me against stabbing. ..
I just ordered a kevlar glove, so I’ll let you know how well it works against cuts and stabs.[/quote]

use one of theseGreat! Let me know how you like your Kevlar Glove.. About the oyster knifes, I think it must depend on what species of oysters you have. I look at that knife that your linke to and, to be honest, I have never seen one like that out here where we are in the USAs Pacific Northwest. I spend many happy days on the Oregon Coast each summer, and of course oysters are ‘da-bomb’ out here. I shuck the ones I eat, they are live, and maybe that makes a difference, but no sharp tool is required. I

and the “professional shuckers” at places like this use the same type of dull screwdriver type tool. I have watched them shuck hundreds and hundreds an hour at tables like this and never have observed anyone sharpening the tool.

OysterFarmsYaquina_River, Newport Oregon


Shucking Table:

I too look forward to hearing how it works for you to protect against cuts. Like Zig and Dennis I would not like to work in them as I also feel the blade a lot during my work, but for some people they may work great…

Maybe this will help answer some questions about the gloves… and a few other things

https://justnet.org/standards/glovescpl.html

http://www.nij.gov/topics/technology/body-armor/compliant-stab-armor.htm