I was having a bit of trouble tightening the bottom screw, it seemed that it was very resistant, so on a whim, I added a drop of oil to the end of the screw (where it contacts the opposite clamp). Man, what a difference… now super easy to tighten.
So, thought I’d pass it along… (hope it’s not a tip out there already).
Great idea. I put soap on mine … just run the treads of the screw over a bar of soap. It’s like a combination of oil and wax.
I used metal tape to hold a small piece of Stainless Steel where the screw digs into the clamp.
It would be nice to have Clay insert a SS insert from WE so it wouldnt dig into the clamp. I know this would add to the cost.
[quote quote=“pinkfloyd74” post=10100]I used metal tape to hold a small piece of Stainless Steel where the screw digs into the clamp.
It would be nice to have Clay insert a SS insert from WE so it wouldnt dig into the clamp. I know this would add to the cost.[/quote]
Do you mean like this?
These new inserts will be on all of our future production runs, including the order we just made, due in at the beginning of the summer.
a drop of oil was tremendously effective.. nice one!
Clay,
Exactly, that looks a lot better than my mod! Ok, next question how much for a replacement?
[quote quote=“pinkfloyd74” post=10112]Clay,
Exactly, that looks a lot better than my mod! Ok, next question how much for a replacement?[/quote]
I don’t have prices yet but I’ll post it when I have a quote and ETA.
I’ll never catch up to all these upgrades and mods at this rate 
Great to hear you’re always improving on the kit, Clay. Keep up the good work!
[quote quote=“wickededge” post=10104][quote quote=“pinkfloyd74” post=10100]I used metal tape to hold a small piece of Stainless Steel where the screw digs into the clamp.
It would be nice to have Clay insert a SS insert from WE so it wouldnt dig into the clamp. I know this would add to the cost.[/quote]
Do you mean like this?
These new inserts will be on all of our future production runs, including the order we just made, due in at the beginning of the summer.[/quote]
Clay, will these inserts be made available to folks that have the older versions …and what does it require for installment…drill it out and tap it for threaded insert ? Would really like to have this on mine as the bottom screw is digging into the aluminum clamp pretty good…let us know ?
[quote quote=“DARRELLALLEN” post=12914][quote quote=“wickededge” post=10104][quote quote=“pinkfloyd74” post=10100]I used metal tape to hold a small piece of Stainless Steel where the screw digs into the clamp.
It would be nice to have Clay insert a SS insert from WE so it wouldnt dig into the clamp. I know this would add to the cost.[/quote]
Do you mean like this?
These new inserts will be on all of our future production runs, including the order we just made, due in at the beginning of the summer.[/quote]
Clay, will these inserts be made available to folks that have the older versions …and what does it require for installment…drill it out and tap it for threaded insert ? Would really like to have this on mine as the bottom screw is digging into the aluminum clamp pretty good…let us know ?:)[/quote]
They’re coming installed on all the new vise jaws that are (hopefully) arriving very soon. I hadn’t thought about adding them to existing jaws. I’ll check w/ the machine shop and see what’s involved.
I got my kit a couple of weeks ago, the steel insert is not there???
I don’t mean to be contrary…but sometimes I get confused…
Clay said ONE day ago:
So how would the inserts be included on a vise that was delivered a couple of weeks ago???
[quote quote=“PhilipPasteur” post=12967]
I don’t mean to be contrary…but sometimes I get confused…
“They’re coming installed on all the new vise jaws that are (hopefully) arriving very soon.”
So how would the inserts be included on a vise that was delivered a couple of weeks ago???[/quote]
I guess we are both a bit confused. LOL
They’re is actually they are, so They’re coming installed on all the new vise jaws… means they are now. Properly said (and less confusing) is “They will be coming on…” They will be means in the future.
English lesson over… :cheer:
JohnnyG - good point
On another note, I like your Zee Maps link. Are the users shown the ones that are currently logged on?
[quote quote=“JohnnyG” post=12978][quote quote=“PhilipPasteur” post=12967]
I don’t mean to be contrary…but sometimes I get confused…
“They’re coming installed on all the new vise jaws that are (hopefully) arriving very soon.”
So how would the inserts be included on a vise that was delivered a couple of weeks ago???[/quote]
I guess we are both a bit confused. LOL
They’re is actually they are, so They’re coming installed on all the new vise jaws… means they are now. Properly said (and less confusing) is “They will be coming on…” They will be means in the future.
English lesson over… :cheer:[/quote]
English lesson begins..
Read the entire sentence…
They are coming on the new vise jaws that will be delivered soon..
Not on the vise jaws that have been delivered… right?
In this day of instant gratification… it is common to not read an entire sentence…
Or to reply with one!
I guess I read it differently…
BUT, it is not important. Now that Clay has been duly corrected, for saying what he meant, we all know what is happening..
:evil:
:woohoo:
BTW.. now I am being contrary…
Though the idea is a very good one, and I applaud Clay for incorporating it into new production sets, It has yet to become a problem for me. Even though I have “at least” 200 knives through the current set of jaws, and scaring is not a problem, I really like the idea!. When I replace these jaws in a few (or maybe several) hundred more knives, I will ask for a set of the new ones with the insert!!
My take is, if you are screwing up the surface of the moveable jaw with the tension screw, you might think of using less tension when tightening that thing down.
IMHO
I just wanted to throw something out here.
Back in the day I used a bunch of fasteners in my business. I made friends with one of the sales pukes for on of the big vendors. One day, over beers, he told me a story.
He would go to to sell his fasteners and one of the tests he pushed was torqueing a fastener to failure.
He told me how he would stroke his nose to get oil off of his face and put it on the competitors fastener before testing. The lubricant would reduce the torque required before the bolt failed. He could run his “clean” bolts and the torque would be higher before failure…
OK, the point is that, easier to turn, does not equate to lower pressures, between the thread, nor at the end of the screw bearing on a surface.
Back to where we came from here. Oiling the threads, or the contact patch with the movable jaw, will likely make it seem as if it is easier to turn the crew… Or yes it will be, lessening the torque required. If anything, making the screw easier to turn, will increase the likelihood of marring the moveable jaw..
With, or without, an insert!
Concept: Feels “better” might not always be “better” !
Easier is not always better either
:evil:
So, may be dumb as a tree-stump, but I just thought I’d put it on my drill press and drill a hole. Then how tough is it to drop some Stainless in the hold to act as a pad for the screw?
I for one, do not think it is on Clay to cover us all every time he improves the tool.
If you took your 1983 Chevy into the dealer would you expect a 2014 because there were improvements?
My attitude:
Clay- Thanks for sharing the upgrade. If I can do it I will. If I cant- it worked as it was. If it wears out I’ll buy a replacement.
To all who offered soap/wax etc ideas THANKS - you embody the spirit of this board!!!
[quote quote=“PhilipPasteur” post=12995]
Concept: Feels “better” might not always be “better” !
Easier is not always better either
:evil:[/quote]
Don’t knock it until you try it. 
Oh yeah…
:evil:
Gotchya…
Knowing the engineering..
Not sure I care… or knowing the consequences..
Want to add to the complexity of my sharpening regime.
BUT (also)
I need the exercise of twisting that horribly tough to turn screw
:evil:
BUT
Gotchya!!!
Can’t knock it until you try it..
I guess I will never really know..
:woohoo:
[quote quote=“PhilipPasteur” post=13004]Gotchya…
Knowing the engineering..
Not sure I care… or knowing the consequences..
Want to add to the complexity of my sharpening regime.
BUT (also)
I need the exercise of twisting that horribly tough to turn screw
:evil:
BUT
Gotchya!!!
Can’t knock it until you try it..
I guess I will never really know..
:woohoo:[/quote]
Was this a [strike]D[/strike] PWI post? :lol:
Just to clarify, this wasn’t just to make tightening the screw “easier”, like I said in my original post, mine was resistant… to the point where I could apply a lot of force to the screw, and the knife would still slip. Adding the drop of oil solved this. There have been no bad “consequences”… just a return to being able to quickly and effectively secure the knife.
Perhaps the reason why needed clarification.
