After a conversation with a guy who seems to really know his stuff I went back to my custom skinner and went back to the 1000 stones. I rubbed them together to smooth them off as we talked about. I then went (using very light pressure) and sharpened the knife from the front to the back to remove any chance of there being scratches from the higher grit stones and so I could see the effect that the 15micron paper had. After 150 strokes each side from the handle again with the 15 micron paper I can still see marks going the other way from the 1000 stones ??? And I did make sure to get a burr on the 100 stones when I started.