Sharpening problem! Need some help.

[Kyle]

Edit: i fixed my original problem, but now my stone is not hitting the very tip of the blade. How would i go about fixing this? Do i need to tilt the knife down a little?

[Steven N. Bolin]

Edit: i fixed my original problem, but now my stone is not hitting the very tip of the blade. How would i go about fixing this? Do i need to tilt the knife down a little?

Can you provide a little more detail?

Also, what was the problem you fixed?

[Kyle]

Edit: i fixed my original problem, but now my stone is not hitting the very tip of the blade. How would i go about fixing this? Do i need to tilt the knife down a little?

Can you provide a little more detail?

Also, what was the problem you fixed?[/quote]

My original problem was that my stone was only hitting part of the bevel all the down the length of the blade. I adjusted the knife a little and fixed that problem, but now when i get to the tip the stone isnt hitting the whole tip evenly. If that makes sense. Sorry i dont know all of the sharpening lingo yet. Still new to this. Pretty much the stone isnt completely sharpening the tip. Its missing parts of the bevel on both sides of the tips.

[Steven N. Bolin]

Edit: i fixed my original problem, but now my stone is not hitting the very tip of the blade. How would i go about fixing this? Do i need to tilt the knife down a little?

Can you provide a little more detail?

Also, what was the problem you fixed?[/quote]

My original problem was that my stone was only hitting part of the bevel all the down the length of the blade. I adjusted the knife a little and fixed that problem, but now when i get to the tip the stone isnt hitting the whole tip evenly. If that makes sense. Sorry i dont know all of the sharpening lingo yet. Still new to this. Pretty much the stone isnt completely sharpening the tip. Its missing parts of the bevel on both sides of the tips.[/quote]

Well, if the knife was successfully clamped and vertical in the vise, I assume you fixed the original problem by adjusting the knife either up/down?

Since the tip portion is now an issue, it sounds like you need to move the knife either forward/backward. Best thing to do is use your Sharpie to paint the bevel then make a pass with the 1000. If the Sharpie’s removed at the shoulder right behind of the tip and is not removed from the actual tip itself, the knife needs to be moved towards you. And visa versa. However, this method isn’t a definite solution that’s guaranteed to work on all knives. It’s more for beginners whom are trying get acquainted with the system. There’s a page in the WE user manual that details the basics.

To sum it all up – The exposed path left along the entire bevel after making a swipe with your stone is basically the systems way of telling you where it wants the edge to be. From there all you really need to do is get the apex as parallel as possible to that path.. If that makes any sense at all?

[Kyle]

Edit: i fixed my original problem, but now my stone is not hitting the very tip of the blade. How would i go about fixing this? Do i need to tilt the knife down a little?

Can you provide a little more detail?

Also, what was the problem you fixed?[/quote]

My original problem was that my stone was only hitting part of the bevel all the down the length of the blade. I adjusted the knife a little and fixed that problem, but now when i get to the tip the stone isnt hitting the whole tip evenly. If that makes sense. Sorry i dont know all of the sharpening lingo yet. Still new to this. Pretty much the stone isnt completely sharpening the tip. Its missing parts of the bevel on both sides of the tips.[/quote]

Well, if the knife was successfully clamped and vertical in the vise, I assume you fixed the original problem by adjusting the knife either up/down?

Since the tip portion is now an issue, it sounds like you need to move the knife either forward/backward. Best thing to do is use your Sharpie to paint the bevel then make a pass with the 1000. If the Sharpie’s removed at the shoulder right behind of the tip and is not removed from the actual tip itself, the knife needs to be moved towards you. And visa versa. However, this method isn’t a definite solution that guarantees to work on all knives. It’s more for beginners whom are trying get acquainted with the system. There’s a page in the WE user manual that details the basics.

To sum it all up – The exposed path left along the entire bevel after making a swipe with your stone is basically the systems way of telling you where it wants the edge to be. From there all you really need to do is get the apex as parallel as possible to that path.. If that makes any sense at all?[/quote]

I fixed my original problem by moving the knife down a little. Ill try exactly what you suggested and let you know how it goes.

[Kyle]

Edit: i fixed my original problem, but now my stone is not hitting the very tip of the blade. How would i go about fixing this? Do i need to tilt the knife down a little?

Can you provide a little more detail?

Also, what was the problem you fixed?[/quote]

My original problem was that my stone was only hitting part of the bevel all the down the length of the blade. I adjusted the knife a little and fixed that problem, but now when i get to the tip the stone isnt hitting the whole tip evenly. If that makes sense. Sorry i dont know all of the sharpening lingo yet. Still new to this. Pretty much the stone isnt completely sharpening the tip. Its missing parts of the bevel on both sides of the tips.[/quote]

Well, if the knife was successfully clamped and vertical in the vise, I assume you fixed the original problem by adjusting the knife either up/down?

Since the tip portion is now an issue, it sounds like you need to move the knife either forward/backward. Best thing to do is use your Sharpie to paint the bevel then make a pass with the 1000. If the Sharpie’s removed at the shoulder right behind of the tip and is not removed from the actual tip itself, the knife needs to be moved towards you. And visa versa. However, this method isn’t a definite solution that guarantees to work on all knives. It’s more for beginners whom are trying get acquainted with the system. There’s a page in the WE user manual that details the basics.

To sum it all up – The exposed path left along the entire bevel after making a swipe with your stone is basically the systems way of telling you where it wants the edge to be. From there all you really need to do is get the apex as parallel as possible to that path.. If that makes any sense at all?[/quote]

So i fixed the issue i was having with the tip. I loostened the vise and moved the knife back a timy bit. Then marked the tip with sharpie and i took the sharpie right off. So thank you. Your idea did work. I finished up the knife. Went 100-1000 diamonds. 1200,1600 coarse, fine. Ceramics then the 5,3.5 strop. The edge came out alright for a rookie. Some spots ate nicely polished and some spots arent as polished. And there is some scratches i missed. Another problem i ran into though was that after i was done with the diamonds and went on to the ceramics. The heel of the blade now wasnt getting completely hit. Some scratches were being left behind at the heel. I just kept going and the knife came out super sharp anyways. I need to get better at removing all the scratches from each previouse grit before moving on. Here are a few pucs of how it came out.

[Alan]

I think you wound up doing an excellent job! That edge on your knife looks great to me. I only hope I can do as well when I get my new WEPS.

Alan

[Kyle]

I think you wound up doing an excellent job! That edge on your knife looks great to me. I only hope I can do as well when I get my new WEPS.

Thank you. Im pretty happy with how it came out. Pictures make it look a little better then it really is though. Up close in person you can see some mistakes and errors. But overall it came out hair shaving sharp and the bevel was pretty much evan the length of the blade so im happy. The w/e is a great system. Glad i invested the money into it instead of the edge pro. Theres alot to learn though this is only like my 10th knife but each knife i do gets better and better. Youtube and the forums will be your best friend when you get yours.

[Steven N. Bolin]

As I was inspecting the edge in the two pictures you posted, all based on what I had just previously read, I thought there had to be some mistake. Possibly the wrong photos got uploaded?… Because that edge does indeed look excellent!

I think you wound up doing an excellent job! That edge on your knife looks great to me.

Agreed.

I only hope I can do as well when I get my new WEPS.

And, you will.

[Kyle]

As I was inspecting the edge in the two pictures you posted, all based on what I had just previously read, I thought there had to be some mistake. Possibly the wrong photos got uploaded?… Because that edge does indeed look excellent!

I think you wound up doing an excellent job! That edge on your knife looks great to me.

Agreed.

I only hope I can do as well when I get my new WEPS.

And, you will.[/quote]

Nope those would be the correct pictures. Yea i guess i didnt have as much trouble with the 0900 blade shape as i thought. Like i said though up close in person there are a few errors. Especially at the heel on both sides. The scratches dont really show up in the picture that good.

[tcmeyer]

When the scratches don’t show in the pictures, that is a good thing. You knife looks very well done, scratches or not.

In 1974, I built my first garage, single-handed. As I was struggling with the hip-roof rafters, something seemed off. As I completed the roof sheathing, I had to do a lot of trimming. When the job was done, I realized that the left wall had bowed out by about an inch. Every time I drive past that place, my eyes are drawn to that garage wall. I can’t not look at it. And so it is for any craftsman. You know all the defects and your eyes are drawn to them. This is unhealthy. You need to focus on the good work you’ve done. Save perfection for those jobs that merit it.

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