Vice not holding some of my knives...

I have been lurking on the forum for some time; although this is my first post. Great community, I have learned a TON!

I recently got my WE system and have been going through my knives sharpening, etc. I have run into an issue with a few of them that I would like your opinions/input on.

Some of my pocket knives have a thick spine that tapers directly to the edge like the pictures below (Schrade 170UH in this case, 4.25" blade x .75"):

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The vice, even when tightened as much as possible, cannot hold the knife steady at a 90-degree angle to the base. How do you handle these? I see faults in most of the ways I have thought up to correct.

THANKS!!

Ed

My usual solution to this problem is the use of my handy piece of chamois to wrap and fold i such a way as to fill the voids left by the shape of the knife. Mind you my knives may not have had the angle to deal with that you do, but it should work. Some people use a layer or layers of double-sided tape to do the job. Give it a shot and see what happens.

Good luck :slight_smile:
Leo

Hey Ed,

Sharpening Fully Flat Ground BladesIt’s nice to see you on here. Please check out this tutorial: . This should answer your question pretty thoroughly. The only thing I have to add to it lately is that I’ve been enjoying using Moleskin, which you can find in almost any grocery store or pharmacy, instead of the foam tape lately.

It’s interesting to see this same question keep popping up.

The day the WEPS can clamp a knife without gaps or packing the said gaps with foam/chamois/moleskin it will be complete.

As I have said before, the clamp should follow the sides of the knife, on every knife.
It doesn’t, because there is no way to then make the clamp/knife vertical.

I see this as Clays’ biggest challenge!

[quote quote=“Billabong” post=7587]It’s interesting to see this same question keep popping up.

The day the WEPS can clamp a knife without gaps or packing the said gaps with foam/chamois/moleskin it will be complete.

As I have said before, the clamp should follow the sides of the knife, on every knife.
It doesn’t, because there is no way to then make the clamp/knife vertical.

I see this as Clays’ biggest challenge![/quote]

Wait til you see what I have up my sleeve :slight_smile: I hope that translates okay to Aussie English :dry:

The only word I don’t understand is this one, “wait”. :side:

I’m thinking of starting a thread called “Clay’s Bucket List”. :wink:

I was thinking of some kind of base for the clamps which allowed precise rotation of each side for a few degrees. Kind of a machinist’s base. Wouldn’t need to allow much rotation because the amount of taper over the length of the clamp is small. But I agree that clamping a heavily tapered spine knife is a pesky problem and chamois or tape or foam is not the optimal solution, although it works.

Rgds,

[quote quote=“Billabong” post=7587]The day the WEPS can clamp a knife without gaps or packing the said gaps with foam/chamois/moleskin it will be complete.

As I have said before, the clamp should follow the sides of the knife, on every knife.
It doesn’t, because there is no way to then make the clamp/knife vertical.

I see this as Clays’ biggest challenge![/quote]

He’s solved it… :whistle:

I have seen the future, and it’s awesome!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

(Keep in mind though, it’s just a prototype, not something coming out tomorrow. Today’s machine still works great!) :slight_smile:

Let me take a look and I will rate its awsomeness for you! :evil:

I like awesome things!

Is it a clamp within a clamp?

I wish I could say… I normally don’t even mention stuff I’ve seen… but this worked so well, I couldn’t contain myself. :cheer:

The next question. Will it work as a update to the existing system? If and when this awesome thing appears . . .

I wish I could say… I normally don’t even mention stuff I’ve seen… but this worked so well, I couldn’t contain myself. :cheer:[/quote]

Are you employed by WE?

This could be years away like the serrated option was/is.

It’s much closer than that, as is the serrated option. :slight_smile:

It’s much closer than that, as is the serrated option. :)[/quote]

Then I look forward to them both. :cheer:

I found a thread where you said “soon” on the serrated option back in Jan 2011.
I guess it hasn’t been easy?

Serrated never is, everyone has their own pattern. :/:unsure:

It’s much closer than that, as is the serrated option. :)[/quote]

Then I look forward to them both. :cheer:

I found a thread where you said “soon” on the serrated option back in Jan 2011.
I guess it hasn’t been easy?[/quote]

Nope, hasn’t been easy. I came up with a great solution a couple of years ago, but finding a source for what I needed has proved impossible, until maybe recently. Last year, I thought I’d found a source but it didn’t work out. I have a very good interim solution and a lead on the sourcing I’ve been looking for all this time. The interim solution works really well, I’ve prototyped and tested it and now am just needing to focus on it with our machine shop to get it into production.

Well, my money is here ready to hand over.

So it fits up your sleeve then! :ohmy:

Lower angles than 13Ëš?

So it fits up your sleeve then! :ohmy:

Lower angles than 13Ëš?[/quote]

I haven’t finalized all the details yet.