I’m sorry to hear that Clay but the facts are the facts and Michael has a history of bad customer service! I have a bunch of medical problems with my family too but I can’t drop the ball at work or life gets worse. I don’t wish him any ill will and I hope his brother pulls through but I will never do business with him again and I feel it is only fair that people are aware of his business practices. My story below…
December 27th I ordered 2x Wicked Edge Lapping Film # 4 kits and each kit is supposed to come with 2 blank handles with 4 aluminum blanks (epoxied in where the stones go) and 8 strips each of 9, 5, 3,1 & .3 micron lapping film. Michael Poe sent me 4 empty handles with no aluminum blanks attached which rendered my kit useless. Jan 13th I contacted Michael Poe and he said he must have shipped them before he glued in the aluminum blanks because he was so busy with the Christmas rush. He then said he will ship the aluminum blanks, epoxy and a free full package of lapping film strips for my trouble. Ok that sound good! Feb 24th I emailed Mike because nothing had arrived but this time he was not responding to my emails. Over the next several days I easily found numerous complaints about bestsharpeningstones.com and then I came across Best Sharpening Stones Better Business Bureau report which didn’t put my mind at ease. http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey/business-reviews/internet-shopping/best-sharpening-stones-in-new-providence-nj-90032552 I sent Mike another email saying that I was going to take action if I didn’t see some from him and by the next day I had a shipping notice. Mar 8th I received the package all excited and he only sent 4 aluminum blanks instead of 8 (4 paddles = 8 aluminum blanks), no epoxy and only 12 & 9 micron lapping film instead of the 9, 5, 3,1 & .3 micron which is useless to me. At this point I’m done with this tool, as in Michael Poe not the WEPS, and will will never purchase from Best Sharpening Stones again!
[quote quote=“BARBARIAN-X” post=2196]I’m sorry to hear that Clay but the facts are the facts and Michael has a history of bad customer service! I have a bunch of medical problems with my family too but I can’t drop the ball at work or life gets worse. I don’t wish him any ill will and I hope his brother pulls through but I will never do business with him again and I feel it is only fair that people are aware of his business practices. My story below…
December 27th I ordered 2x Wicked Edge Lapping Film # 4 kits and each kit is supposed to come with 2 blank handles with 4 aluminum blanks (epoxied in where the stones go) and 8 strips each of 9, 5, 3,1 & .3 micron lapping film. Michael Poe sent me 4 empty handles with no aluminum blanks attached which rendered my kit useless. Jan 13th I contacted Michael Poe and he said he must have shipped them before he glued in the aluminum blanks because he was so busy with the Christmas rush. He then said he will ship the aluminum blanks, epoxy and a free full package of lapping film strips for my trouble. Ok that sound good! Feb 24th I emailed Mike because nothing had arrived but this time he was not responding to my emails. Over the next several days I easily found numerous complaints about bestsharpeningstones.com and then I came across Best Sharpening Stones Better Business Bureau report which didn’t put my mind at ease. http://www.bbb.org/new-jersey/business-reviews/internet-shopping/best-sharpening-stones-in-new-providence-nj-90032552 I sent Mike another email saying that I was going to take action if I didn’t see some from him and by the next day I had a shipping notice. Mar 8th I received the package all excited and he only sent 4 aluminum blanks instead of 8 (4 paddles = 8 aluminum blanks), no epoxy and only 12 & 9 micron lapping film instead of the 9, 5, 3,1 & .3 micron which is useless to me. At this point I’m done with this tool, as in Michael Poe not the WEPS, and will will never purchase from Best Sharpening Stones again! [/quote]
Thank you. I’m really sorry about your experience. I’ll check all this out.
Thanks everyone for the information in this issue. I have an open order there for several weeks now, and could not understand what in the heck was happening.
I must say, as someone that has a hand in actually running several e-commerce sites, the people over at BSS need to set their store in a mode where it is either offline or in a mode where you can look at the site to see the goodies for sale, but the software is set to not accept any orders. All ecommerce software packages have these abilities and setting them up in that mode is not rocket science. Usually you just enter your stores back-end admin area and click the few simple settings necessary.
One thing they need to be very careful about is that if they take Charge Card payments and not send out merchandise they will be violating the terms of their Merchant Agreement and will be dropped. At that point they will be out of business, probably never to return, as once you screw up a merchant account you are pretty much blacklisted. Hope this does not happen at BSS, as I look forward to them getting back up and running as I see many items there that I want, so I sure hope they can hang in there and do the right thing!
I’m having the same problem thought they were in stock, got the sharpener w/base and extra stones it has been a month now, but it looks like everybody has them on backorder.
Ordered a WEPS while I was in the US on business a few weeks ago because it said they delivered in 2-3 days and had it in stock.
1 week later, called to find out what was going on and only got through to a ‘we’ll leave him a message’ answering service.
2 weeks later, called a couple more times, same message service, never heard back, had to head home at the end of my trip.
Now it’s 3 weeks later, I’ve left 6 or 7 messages and haven’t heard a peep. Starting to get pretty frustrated, wish I had seen this thread and the BBB review before I ordered.
Anyway, my credit card has been charged and the sharpener, if sent, will end up at a hotel where I’m no longer staying. Should I just contest the credit card charges and be done with it, or is this something that the proprietor is likely to be able to sort out? I don’t mind paying the shipping costs and calling it a day if that gets me the sharpener in the end, but if it gets shipped to the Hotel, I don’t have any way of retrieving it!
We’ll look into this right away for you and find a solution. I don’t think there there will be any need to dispute the charges - if we can’t get a hold of BSS quickly, we can drop ship the order for you and settle up with BSS ourselves. Can you please provide us with your shipping address? Please send an email to info@wickededgeusa.com.
-Clay
[quote quote=“JonathanBeaver” post=4230]Ordered a WEPS while I was in the US on business a few weeks ago because it said they delivered in 2-3 days and had it in stock.
1 week later, called to find out what was going on and only got through to a ‘we’ll leave him a message’ answering service.
2 weeks later, called a couple more times, same message service, never heard back, had to head home at the end of my trip.
Now it’s 3 weeks later, I’ve left 6 or 7 messages and haven’t heard a peep. Starting to get pretty frustrated, wish I had seen this thread and the BBB review before I ordered.
Anyway, my credit card has been charged and the sharpener, if sent, will end up at a hotel where I’m no longer staying. Should I just contest the credit card charges and be done with it, or is this something that the proprietor is likely to be able to sort out? I don’t mind paying the shipping costs and calling it a day if that gets me the sharpener in the end, but if it gets shipped to the Hotel, I don’t have any way of retrieving it![/quote]
I’m impressed that you’re willing to step in and help out on an issue with a distributor like this, although saddling you with the issue certainly wasn’t my intention.
I’ll fire through an e-mail straight away, cheers!
Now THAT is customer service!!! Bravo Clay!!
I just wonder how long BSS should be allowed to keep screwing people by taking money for WEPS products and not delivering product. This is obviously a pattern over a long period of time.
Phil
[quote quote=“wickededge” post=4232]Johnathan,
We’ll look into this right away for you and find a solution. I don’t think there there will be any need to dispute the charges - if we can’t get a hold of BSS quickly, we can drop ship the order for you and settle up with BSS ourselves. Can you please provide us with your shipping address? Please send an email to info@wickededgeusa.com.
I too, had problems with BSS and there was a point I didn’t think I was ever going to get my order but with some patience Clay and Kay took care of me and then some. I know its hard to have patience with things like this but Wicked Edge will take care of yea.
Hey guys Just wanted to pass along my experience, I saw BSS had some of the super fine stones in stock so I put in an order, then I saw this thread and thought “dam, that all I need” well I got a confirmation and then I thought I would add to the order over the weekend hopping it would get caught to save shipping. Sunday I got a notification both orders will get shipped together and all is indeed In stock.
It looks to me his reputation is on the mend.
He seems to run in streaks. I got 60% of my order very quickly. The last 40%, well I never got it, and it took several weeks of trying to get him to talk to me and not hearing back, and finally when (I think) Clay talked to him, I got a refund.
The worst part is the lack of communication, with the only phone number being an answering service that turns around and send him email… which he ignores.
While I ended up with a refund and he did send me an assortment of 3M PSA lapping film cut for the WEPS, it just shouldn’ be that hard. People send off their money in good faith, it should not be too much to ask to get what they bought in a timely manner, or at least get status quickly and regularly.
Phil
[quote quote=“WayneBeatty” post=4430]Hey guys Just wanted to pass along my experience, I saw BSS had some of the super fine stones in stock so I put in an order, then I saw this thread and thought “dam, that all I need” well I got a confirmation and then I thought I would add to the order over the weekend hopping it would get caught to save shipping. Sunday I got a notification both orders will get shipped together and all is indeed In stock.
It looks to me his reputation is on the mend.[/quote]
I’m kicking myself for not researching bestsharpeningstones.com before placing an order last week.
I received a a priority mail tracking number within hours of placing the order but have yet to receive the package after a week–USPS tracking shows they have not received the package.
No response to multiple emails so far requesting an update.
I’m debating whether to just file a dispute with paypal at this point…
[quote quote=“Bluewater” post=9802]I’m kicking myself for not researching bestsharpeningstones.com before placing an order last week.
I received a a priority mail tracking number within hours of placing the order but have yet to receive the package after a week–USPS tracking shows they have not received the package.
No response to multiple emails so far requesting an update.
I’m debating whether to just file a dispute with paypal at this point…[/quote]
I’ll jump in and contact BSS this morning and post back on what I learn. Worst case scenario is that we fulfill your order for him and settle with him separately. Can you please PM me with your order details?
