Thanks for all the feed back. While waiting for the WEPS to arrive I modified my old flipover bladesharpner to work similar to the WEPS. I set the angle at 21 and it works great but is a bit akward with the big stones. I will try the micro beveling when I get the real thing! Ronan what stones do you use for the primary bevel? I am getting all the diamond stones and the ceramic and strops. I’ve also made a double hollow grinder with two grinders, fully adjustable, water cooled, it can hollow a knife under 10 minutes which keeps the blade nice and thin. As for steeling I use a polished steel and an acid pitted steel to maintain the edge. Steel lightly at the same angle as the edge.