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  • #31317

    CliffCurry
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    So Ive been on the hunt for a while now how to get the best resolution, highest magnification, images for the lowest price.

    I would like to see if there is enough interest in doing a pass around of a calibration slide I have recently been using for my own tests?

    This would allow us all to see definitively how scope brand X compares to brand Y and evaluate cost VS value with the hope that someone out there has a clear winner and a benchmark for future scopes to be compared to.

    Heres the test slide(bottom glass rectangle).  Inside the circle is a 1mm scale with one hundred .01mm increment marks.
    20160216_091513
    20160216_091622

    This is from my “x400 power” I paid $20 for.  You can clearly see the marks but thats as low as it can go…
    Tue-Feb-16-09-09-06

    If everyone thinks it would be a fun experiment to compare our gear, let me know and we can put together a mailing list and send it around to those that would like to partake. 

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    #31321

    wickededge
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    If I’m doing my math right, it looks like you can get down to around 5 microns with your scope, maybe a little lower.

    -Clay

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    #31322

    Anonymous
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    I use my 20 dollar scope and my Win 10 software, to view my edge at either 50 X or 500 X, I can capture photographs, and it does what I want it to do. Of course I am a sledge hammer kind of guy when it come to knife edges, and not a micro surgery guy.  I can view nicks and bends, and also the bevel finish and progression of polishing.

    Innolife Portable 50X-500X Magnification 8-LED USB Digital Microscope Endoscope with Stand for Education Biological Inspection.

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    20151229_175423

    #31323

    Anonymous
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    WIN_20151223_23_29_34_Pro

    WIN_20151223_23_21_30_Pro

    #31324

    wickededge
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    I’ve got a similar stage micrometer from Ted Pella Inc that I believe is very accurate. They ship them with inspection reports and serial numbers, so I’m hopeful it can be trusted. Here are some shots from my newest scope, a Dino-Lite AM4515T8:

    stage-micrometer
    stage-micrometer-2
    stage-micrometer-3

    -Clay

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    #31328

    wickededge
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    And here’s one from a while back on another scope, I believe at 800x:

    Stage-Micrometer-with-40x-objective

    And my previous Dino-Lite at 500x:

    Dino-Lite-500x-Calibration

    -Clay

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    #31333

    CliffCurry
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    Clay is that Dino-Lite AM4515TA about the best you have found out on the market?  With its higher resolution can it zoom in tighter and still be clear enough to view?  Great clarity BTW!
    I have a scope very similar to Bills and agreeably its good enough for Government work at the level it can magnify to for $20, but I find myself constantly desiring to peer closer at the apex.  The SEM shots from Greg have literally ruined me.  I even mounted a pocket scope on top of the usb scope and made this contraption:
    20160216_091116
    with results less then stellar but definitely showing the MAX magnification I can reach with the $30 in parts I have laying around.
    Tue-Feb-16-09-03-14

    This is what got me interested in the idea of passing around the slide so everyone could see how their setup compares and maybe there becomes a clear bang for the buck winner.  I think your Dino 4515 will be hard to beat in the unlimited division tho. LOL

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    #31361

    Josh
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    I’m in on this Cliff!!

     

    Clay, I googled that model of Dinolite and can’t seem to find it… do you have a link?

    #31363

    CliffCurry
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    I’m in on this Cliff!! Clay, I googled that model of Dinolite and can’t seem to find it… do you have a link?

    I think this is the one Clay has:
    http://www.microscope.com/digital-microscopes/dino-lite/specialty-models/dino-lite-edge-am4515t8-700x-900x-handheld-digital-microscope-2825.html

    Basically Clays post removes the need to send around the slide since he has already shown what to expect from 3 scopes in the middle to high range.  The clarity of the am4515 is super crisp at the .01mm scale(all his pictures) but I was hoping there was tech out there that could possibly get closer.

    Ive read there is a theoretical limit for optical scopes due to wave length of light or something super technical.  I know for traditional optical scopes the make high power lens but you need to view through a drop of oil.  Another hurdle….

    If Clay’s scope has that clarity and resolution I was hoping it could zoom in further like I was trying to do in my blurry final pic. *fingers crossed”

    #31365

    Josh
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    Ahhh thanks for the help Cliff! I think it would still be neat to play around w/ the slide =)

     

    I would love to see some edge pics on clay’s new scope 

    #31369

    wickededge
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    I’m in on this Cliff!! Clay, I googled that model of Dinolite and can’t seem to find it… do you have a link?

    I had written it incorrectly, it’s the AM4515T8 and here’s the link: http://www.dino-lite.com/products_detail.php?index_m1_id=9&index_m2_id=15&index_id=38

    -Clay

    #31370

    wickededge
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    There are lots of scopes that can get you closer. My AmScope goes to 2000x and gives very clear pictures. The nice thing about that scope is that you can use different lenses to go from 20x all the way to 2000x. In my experience, the best images are with the 800x lens. I’ll try to dig up some photos taken at that magnification for you.

    -Clay

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    #31371

    Josh
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    Thanks Clay! So were you not happy with your AmScope?

    #31373

    wickededge
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    Thanks Clay! So were you not happy with your AmScope?

    The AmScope is great, I got the other Dino-Lite to replace one that died. The AmScope is a traditional microscope so it’s not as versatile for holding knives. I use it a lot when I’m comparing grits and techniques and using utility blades.

    -Clay

    #31374

    wickededge
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    The thing about the 2000# lens is that the depth of field really limits what you can see to a small area. Even a little curvature on the bevel means that only a small portion will be in focus. I’ve played around image stacking to get a deeper depth of field but so far I haven’t been too impressed with it.

    -Clay

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