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  • #29451

    WickedPissah
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    What happened to the knife database I cannot find it.  Every link ends up in a dead-end.

     

     

    #29452

    chrisjb
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    Sorry for the confusion; the wiki and knife database are temporarily unavailable. We’re working to bring them back. We are setting up a new home for them, after our move away from the previous forum.

    #29698

    Tim
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    Over a month now has the database been abandoned?  Has someone started one elsewhere?

    #29701

    Anonymous
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    Tim welcome to the forum…

    All things come to those who wait. The data base is a good reference, but getting this new forum up and running smoothly is a higher priority. The data base is intact, it  has not made it over to this new forum. Its not a simple key stroke to do this. it requires a lot of code to bring it here. Getting the bugs out of the daily function of this new forum can  be time consuming. Be patient , the data base will get here when higher priorities are met. Keep the faith.

    For specific angles, you can always contact the manufacturer.

    I defy anyone to tell what angle is used to get a razor sharp edge. Most edges are between 15 and 20 degrees.  15 is a bit sharper, 20 is less susceptible to chips.  Once you use a wicked edge. The edge will be straight and true.  this is why the W.E. produces such a sharp edge. be it 15 or 20 degrees 9r anywhere inbetween. Knowing what angle is used will save your knife from needing to be profiled again and removoing too much steel. Once you catalog each one of your knives, you can bring back that edge with a few strokes. or you can make it simple. Knives that you want to be razor sharp use 15 degrees, those that you want to be tough , use 20 degrees, A micro bevel will add a bit of strength to the edge with more meat in the edge just below the surface of the edge.

    Don’t over think the angle…too much.

     

    #30303

    Anonymous
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    Cannot express how disappointed I am at this situation …

    #30312

    Mark76
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    Welcome to the forum, Tim and Climbmnts. I also hope the knife database and the Wiki will be restored soon.

    If you have any specific questions in the meantime, please don’t hesitate to ask. I think Bill (EvilTwin) gave you good general advice.

    Molecule Polishing: my blog about sharpening with the Wicked Edge

    #30313

    Anonymous
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    Tim, that is what I was told 2 months ago. I was also led to believe, when I spent $700 on this system, that one of the tools available would be the knife database. Bill’s advice is well known to me at this point but we all know that it is a huge time saver to have some notes from someone else who has already R&Ded a specific knife. As it was, the list of knifes was surprisingly few.

    I grossesly underestimated the time-loss learning to use the WEP would be. Thank GOD for the youtubers like Razor edge knives & X4CTO! They should be on the payroll…..

    #30314

    Anonymous
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    I’m trying to offer you some empathy, in the fact that a data base of other peoples experieces does not necessarily mean they will work  for you or for the specific manner in which you want to use a knife.

    IM an Old guy, but born with gifted hands and a very mechanical mind… Having two engineering degrees have helped with my career, but other than the understanding I have of mechanical things… anyone can sharpen a knife if they know how to do it…

    Understanding how to sharpen a knife is ten time more valuable than having the results of other people’s experiences. This is My opinion. the WE system allows you to consistently repeat the technique. If you can understand that a burr is formed when the “opposite” edge meets the “opposing” edge.  then bringing a burr to the other side using the WE makes the edge straight and symmetrical. the angle you use for the edge and the pattern of the stroke gives the edge its sharpness and quality.. toothy on non toothy… below the edge is where you may want to add a bevel of facets.. that when stropped will blend to make a strong foundation just below the actual edge. Understanding how a knife edge is created is worth much more than any data base for knives that you may never see in a life time… there are hundreds of knife manufacturers out there, there are many types of steel, but the actual edge is very easy to understand,,, the We makes that edge easy to create. more so than other method I’ve tried in over 50 years of making an attempt to sharpen a knife.

    BTW I  am a Novice at this… less than a month with this system…IN 4 weeks I have been able to sharpen a knife for the first time in 50 years that I can say WOW.

    Be happy in the fact that you have what I think is the best system for consistently sharpening a knife.. and the fact that you wont have to search for a better system like I have  for so many years.

    I would suggest you take the time to view a few You tubes until you understand the burr. Understand that the burr has to be present over the whole length of the edge. Using an angle cube to insure that each side has the same angle. IN my opinion, if you don’t know how to sharpen a knife, the data base serves you no purpose.

    another thing is, once you establish a profile for a knife, knowing what that profile is, is the single most important thing when you need to refresh an edge.

    For most people, if they made all of their knives one angle, then all of their knives could be touched up easily.. Just  because a manufacturer used 38* degrees included. that doesn’t mean you cant make that edge 40* degrees included, and from then on use 20* degrees each side.  this is not rocket science. But its amazing just how sharp this system can make your knives. the learning curve is very very shallow. Personally, I could care less about a data base of knives other people use. Who is to say that my setup for a knife would be better or worse than someone else’s . IN the last four weeks, I have taken all my knives to a sharpness they never knew, even when they were New.

    OK IM off the Box.

    I can get very long winded… sorry

    Bill aka ET

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    #30317

    Anonymous
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    WE get it, you cant figure out how to sharpen a knife and you are using the lack of a data base to bitch… everyone lights up a room,,, some when they enter and unfortunately  some will light up a room when they no longer are here…

     

    Also for the developer.. for the list:

    an ignore feature might be a good idea….

    #30326

    wickededge
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    I wish I had time to read an engineer’s treatise but I don’t. I’m looking for a database. A database I was told would be available to me. For your information I was a carpenter / furniture maker for 25 years. I always had the best Japanese woodworking tools and kept them sharp with Japanese water stones. My tools were the envy of any job site I was on. Sharpening is nothing new to me. I now design products for my own small biz. So I am exceedingly busy. Since purchasing the wicked edge I have spent MANY hours gathering knowledge(mostly on YouTube) and using this system. I’m sorry that asking for a company to live up to their promises seems too much, but to me with my customer’s it is standard fair. If I tell my customer’s something is part of the deal then it is part of the deal. I think for a company to put out a product and rely so heavily on third parties to support it is a bit bizarre. Some better documataion , a knife database that folks are actually contributing to and website that dosent look like its from 2002 would be a good start….. No database…..got it!

    We’ll get the database back up and running as soon as possible. In the meantime, if you’d like some recommendations for specific knives, please post them here and I’ll get right back to you.

    –Clay

    -Clay

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    #30328

    Anonymous
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    We’ll get the database back up and running as soon as possible. In the meantime, if you’d like some recommendations for specific knives, please post them here and I’ll get right back to you. –Clay

    Thanks Clay. Excuse the lack of auto correct in my last post. Small screens late at night with old eyes.

    I already dove into them last night. I love the WEP  but I made mistakes in this $700 purchase ( I was unaware of the gen 3 vice) and have learned too many things the hard way. I’m 3 months in, and have probably a couple hundred hours involved. I have done the work.

    Anyway sorry this thread escalated. It was not my intent. Yesterday was a full day of problems with suppliers, software vendors, computer crashes etc. I sat down to use the WEP for some downtime …..

    Again thanks for your response.

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    #30330

    tcmeyer
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    I’ve been using my WEPS for about 4-1/2 years and stopped using the database within the first year, when I realized that this was just a list of what other users had logged.  There was no data to tell you if the info was the factory’s recommendation or if the data listed made for a superior edge when compared to other angles.  I decided that the best path was to use my own judgement.

    #30332

    wickededge
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    The database still exists. The issue we’re having is that it was created in our old Joomla! platform and there isn’t an analog in WordPress for that kind of database functionality. We can just publish the current database but it would require the visitor to have yet another username and password, which we’re trying to avoid for everyone’s convenience. So we’re researching what can be done in WordPress and also looking for creative solutions to displaying the data and keeping it interactive. If anyone has ideas, we’re all ears! For now, here is a link to the current database on the testing server: http://162.243.110.196/index.php/current-knives. Some graphics are broken at the moment, but it gives you an idea of what we were originally shooting for.

    -Clay

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    #30333

    Anonymous
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    I’ve been using my WEPS for about 4-1/2 years 

    I have been using it 3 months…..

     

     

     

    #30334

    Anonymous
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    I’ve been using my WEPS for about 4-1/2 years and stopped using the database within the first year, when I realized that this was just a list of what other users had logged. There was no data to tell you if the info was the factory’s recommendation or if the data listed made for a superior edge when compared to other angles. I decided that the best path was to use my own judgement.

    I’ve also found that once I understood how to sharpen a knife, there was no need for someone to tell me what they did…there is not a whole lot of mystery here. You can make a wicked sharp edge at 15*  ( 30 * inc. ) degrees and a wicked edge at 20* ( 40* inc. ) degrees. or anywhere in between. Scalpels, razors, fillet, cleavers, and butter knives all have different characteristics, just like chisels, scissors, and axes have theirs.

    No real need for someone else’s data base. I concur with Tom that the data base is a very low priority issue.

    Bill aka ET

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