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    Richard
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    Well, I did it.  I’m trying to learn the correct method in stropping and I sliced into the leather pretty bad.  I sure don’t want to buy another pair, any ideas?  Don’t see where I can just replace the leather.

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    MarcH
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    https://wickededgeusa.com/products/replacement-leather-strip

    They use hot glue to mount it to the plastic paddles.  The old gouged leathers will peal off easily enough and the glue residue can be scraped off.

    Richard it won’t hurt to use the sliced strop.  I suggest to keep using it for now as you acquire the proper technique.  Then after you get it down, replace the strips.

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    #50134

    MarcH
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    Richard, when using the strops it’s always an upward and off direction for your stropping strokes.  I suggest you do not attempt anything but the shortest knives in one long stroke. Especially if the knife shape curves down to the tip. If you try to do this as one long stropping stroke you can easily gouge and slice the leather.  It’s better to break the stropping stroke down into shorter knife portions or segments and do the strokes in a manner that the stroking direction is always up and off while maintaining a perpendicular angle to the knife edge for the segment you are stropping.  Then overlap the stropped segments to blend the edge together.

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    airscapes
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    I sliced the first strop on the 4th pass of the fist knife.. Lucky it was near the end and I just put it at the bottom and take shorter strokes to keep it from rolling across the edge.. Stropping is the hardest part and I still have not leaned how to do it well… either not enough or I dull the knife..

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    #50138

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    Don’t feel too bad about cutting up your leather strops. Everyone has done it a few times. Like Marc said, strops with cuts in them are still fine to use. They don’t look good, but they still get the job done.

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    #50139

    Richard
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    https://wickededgeusa.com/products/replacement-leather-strip They use hot glue to mount it to the plastic paddles. The old gouged leathers will peal off easily enough and the glue residue can be scraped off. Richard it won’t hurt to use the sliced strop. I suggest to keep using it for now as you acquire the proper technique. Then after you get it down, replace the strips.

    Very good, I appreciate that.  Had to bookmark that page because I can’t find it.

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    Richard
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    I sliced the first strop on the 4th pass of the fist knife.. Lucky it was near the end and I just put it at the bottom and take shorter strokes to keep it from rolling across the edge.. Stropping is the hardest part and I still have not leaned how to do it well… either not enough or I dull the knife..

    That’s a great tip.  I tried the .5 micron just a minute ago after the 1600 ceramic and I don’t see a difference.  I’ll get to the polishing later after I get through these basics 🙂

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    MarcH
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    Richard,  4µ / 2µ is where I’d start.  If you don’t know, it’s recommended that you reset the sharpening angle to 1.5º to 2.0º lower angle, for stropping.

    For example if you sharpened at 20º, strop at 18 or 18.5º.  Also stropping is done with more applied pressure then the light sharpening pressure.

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    #50143

    Richard
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    Richard, 4µ / 2µ is where I’d start. If you don’t know, it’s recommended that you reset the sharpening angle to 1.5º to 2.0º lower angle, for stropping. For example if you sharpened at 20º, strop at 18 or 18.5º. Also stropping is done with more applied pressure then the light sharpening pressure.

    So what’s the suggested progression to get that mirror finish?  Like I said, I’ve got a 1200/1600 ceramic and then I bought the 5µ/3.5µ since I had no clue.  Also, where does lapping fit in?

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    MarcH
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    5/3 then 1/0.5 should be good with good pressure and technique.  Realize, mirror finish is a process from the get go.  Each grit has to be used in succession to the optimal results with attention to detail.  Strops will not remove deep scratch remnants from previous grits.

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    #50146

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    Strops work quite differently than the hard abrasives (diamond lapping film, diamond plates, ceramic stones). The leather is malleable and the diamond (or CBN) abrasives are not firmly anchored. Consequently, I find it beneficial to intentionally overlap the grit ratings of strops and hard abrasives in my sharpening sequence. For example, I commonly use the 14 micron strop directly after the 0.6 micron ceramic. This results in an increase in edge polish.

    With the options you have, I would suggest going from the 1600 ceramic to the 5 micron strop, 3.5 micron, 1, and 0.5 micron strop. This will give you your best shot at a mirrored edge. Keep in mind that mirror edges become much easier to obtain once your diamond stones are well worn.

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    Strops work quite differently than the hard abrasives (diamond lapping film, diamond plates, ceramic stones). The leather is malleable and the diamond (or CBN) abrasives are not firmly anchored. Consequently, I find it beneficial to intentionally overlap the grit ratings of strops and hard abrasives in my sharpening sequence. For example, I commonly use the 14 micron strop directly after the 0.6 micron ceramic. This results in an increase in edge polish. With the options you have, I would suggest going from the 1600 ceramic to the 5 micron strop, 3.5 micron, 1, and 0.5 micron strop. This will give you your best shot at a mirrored edge. Keep in mind that mirror edges become much easier to obtain once your diamond stones are well worn.

    That’s good poop right there, sounds like I need to visit their website and plunk out some more cash!!!

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